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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It'll run on a potato.

On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.

As melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think we're gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it's gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that'll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Been reading this sentiment for twenty years now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet it's stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it's never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.

[–] BrikoX 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Recent Linux gain is inflated due to Steam Deck. Their market share has been pretty stale for years at 1,5%.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not really being inflated, steam deck and the prerequisite investment into proton is why most gamers can switch to Linux without encountering a single issue these days.

[–] BrikoX 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If that were the case, the market share at least should have doubled after people saw it was viable for desktop gaming. That didn't happen. It only gained a predicted increase from the estimated sales of Steam Deck's, which indeed inflates the desktop PC numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I think you’re massively underestimating the laziness of most people, and overestimating their level of concern. People. Don’t. Care.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Thank you MS for working so hard to boost Linux market share.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Either way, you're net positive.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My computer can't upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I'm putting Linux on it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My computer can upgrade to win11. I clearly remember the vendor stating that when I bought it last year.

I'll stick to linux, though.

[–] Itsamelemmy 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mine too. I tried 11 and went back to 10. Honestly, only thing keeping me on Windows currently is my plex*arr servers. Guess I have a year to figure out docker.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I have parts on the way to build a new PC. Believe it or not, also Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.

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[–] 5dh 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.

[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 2 months ago

It also has the benefit of inertia. Everyone knows Microsoft from either school or marketing. They are the standard and anyone else has to fight decades of standards. It also helps that they historically created the best tools for easily managing fleets on machines. Now days they are pushing everyone to Azure but before they had the best tools to build your business on. It was so convenient to have Windows server with all the server stuff like AD, SQL and IIS. They basically were they only well known option until the last 5-10 years.

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[–] laurelraven 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Or I could switch to Linux...

OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can't ditch Windows twice.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Yupp, Linux it is

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This isn't news, it's just the standard notice that Microsoft isn't going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn't powerful enough to run win 11. It's not about the older hardware being too weak, it's about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

idk, sounds like an ad for Linux to me

[–] laurelraven 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, I've got a laptop who's CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it...

This is the first time they've intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.

Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.

Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it's blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

FTFY

New Shitty “Os”*

*(Legal Disclaimer “Os” is actually malware)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

~~Blizzard~~ Microsuck: "Don't you all have bank accounts?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Smells like Microsoft air in here... A bit stale, dirty, corporate vibe.

Windows users have no idea what they are missing out on by avoiding Linux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Honestly, I'm afraid of how complicated it sounds and have no idea where to begin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In my opinion Linux is now easier to install than windows. The installers don't have any user hostility built-in, nagging you for Microsoft accounts or activation keys or any of that crap. Once it's Installed you could park your grandma in front of it and she'd be able to figure out how to surf the web.

If you're interested, start here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure that there are grandmas now who have actually used Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just run windows 3.1 dual booted with Linux mint. Easily the most rational decision.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If one's hardware is 10+ years old, I don't think upgrading to the latest OS is likely high on their list of priorities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Why upgrade hardware that still does all you need?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So in other words, switch to Linux, never look back, bever again use anu Microsoft software or product. Done.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

People talk about Linux as if it's easy to use for most people. Also the reason I never switch to Linux is cause of the annoying Linux people who won't shut up about Linux

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'll just keep running Windows 10.

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[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I just would like to point out that you would not be using Windows 10 on or past Oct 2025. You have exactly one year to move on.

As soon as it reached end of life you know it will immediately be a huge target. Don't let personal preference put you at risk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

looks at self

How many other ways are my personal preferences putting me at risk?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Get a new OS for free for your PC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

just give contractors the option to sell their pcs without your bloatware for a hundred bucks cheaper or something

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