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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Why would anyone in their right mind want to upgrade to Windows 11? The only valid reason is you want to play an online multiplayer game that uses kernel level anti-cheat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So in other words, switch to Linux, never look back, bever again use anu Microsoft software or product. Done.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People talk about Linux as if it's easy to use for most people. Also the reason I never switch to Linux is cause of the annoying Linux people who won't shut up about Linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It feels like screaming into the void on Lemmy, but until there is official support for peripherals I use every single day (looking at you stream deck and GoXLR) I will likely never switch to Linux as my only OS. Dual boot on different drives on the other hand....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I’ve spent much of the day trying to get Yunohost/Debian running on my old 2011 MacBook.

It’s much quicker and easier to install the latest macOS on it, and that ain’t right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 days ago (5 children)

On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It'll run on a potato.

On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.

As melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think we're gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it's gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that'll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Been reading this sentiment for twenty years now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)

And yet it's stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it's never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I think you’re massively underestimating the laziness of most people, and overestimating their level of concern. People. Don’t. Care.

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[–] laurelraven 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't you mean 13 years and 3 months? At least, that's when the UNIX Epoch ends...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

If you're on a kernel newer than 5.6 (which is almost 5 years old now so you should be) you already have 64-bit time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Thank you MS for working so hard to boost Linux market share.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Yupp, Linux it is

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.

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[–] laurelraven 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or I could switch to Linux...

OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can't ditch Windows twice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I would've, but Framework ships with your choice of OS (including none) so I didn't have to switch twice!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My computer can't upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I'm putting Linux on it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

My computer can upgrade to win11. I clearly remember the vendor stating that when I bought it last year.

I'll stick to linux, though.

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[–] 5dh 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.

[–] possiblylinux127 4 points 3 days ago

It also has the benefit of inertia. Everyone knows Microsoft from either school or marketing. They are the standard and anyone else has to fight decades of standards. It also helps that they historically created the best tools for easily managing fleets on machines. Now days they are pushing everyone to Azure but before they had the best tools to build your business on. It was so convenient to have Windows server with all the server stuff like AD, SQL and IIS. They basically were they only well known option until the last 5-10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This isn't news, it's just the standard notice that Microsoft isn't going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn't powerful enough to run win 11. It's not about the older hardware being too weak, it's about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.

[–] laurelraven 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dunno, I've got a laptop who's CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it...

This is the first time they've intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.

Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.

Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it's blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 3 days ago

They want you to buy a new Windows license. Also all of there bloated Electron apps run better on fast hardware

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

FTFY

New Shitty “Os”*

*(Legal Disclaimer “Os” is actually malware)

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 3 days ago

Shocked face

Its almost as if Microsoft makes money from new hardware

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

idk, sounds like an ad for Linux to me

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just run windows 3.1 dual booted with Linux mint. Easily the most rational decision.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Decent choice, but I massively disagree with the last 6 words

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

~~Blizzard~~ Microsuck: "Don't you all have bank accounts?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Get a new OS for free for your PC.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Smells like Microsoft air in here... A bit stale, dirty, corporate vibe.

Windows users have no idea what they are missing out on by avoiding Linux.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Honestly, I'm afraid of how complicated it sounds and have no idea where to begin.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

In my opinion Linux is now easier to install than windows. The installers don't have any user hostility built-in, nagging you for Microsoft accounts or activation keys or any of that crap. Once it's Installed you could park your grandma in front of it and she'd be able to figure out how to surf the web.

If you're interested, start here

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll just keep running Windows 10.

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For 1 year at most. After that you need to either move to Windows 11 or switch to a different platform like Linux or Mac OS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I mean, I'm on your side, but many of these people won't do that at all. There's people still running vista. I ran into a machine running fucking XP just two years ago. They'll run 10 until they get ransomware, or the machine breaks physically, or it slows down from being resource hungry on old hardware. Maybe they'll switch in the case of the latter if they can't afford a new machine, or if something like "microsoft spying and pissing them off enough to ditch."

We should encourage for sure but I wouldn't hold out for most of them just yet. Best we can do is be here when they're ready, they're on lemmy they're bound to install Linux one day, it's in the contract we all signed as I'm sure you remember!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If one's hardware is 10+ years old, I don't think upgrading to the latest OS is likely high on their list of priorities.

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