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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Federal law prohibits anyone from knowingly or willfully paying or offering to pay or accepting payment for registering to vote or voting (42 USC § 1973i(c)). It applies to primaries and elections that have candidates on the ballot for the office of president, vice president, presidential elector, or member of Congress, whether or not the violation alleges payment related to a candidate for one of those particular offices. It includes criminal penalties for violations. - https://www.cga.ct.gov/2001/rpt/2001-R-0132.htm

It sucks when Elon does this shit just as much as when someone does it for your team, guys.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The CAH folks have pretty good lawyers. Judging purely on the fact that they formed a Super PAC, they likely have good legal cover.

I found this pretty interesting:

How do you know who didn’t vote? We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

And later on:

How do you know who’s “blue leaning”? We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us your voting history. You wouldn’t believe how easy it was for us to get this stuff. So fucked up!

If they are basing this on which primary you vote in, it's going to be terrible since people like me who live in a swing state vote in the Republican primary since that's a more effective use of my vote than the Democratic primary.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I question the accuracy of their political lean assessment. I'm blazingly progressive and it has me down as "purple". Bitch, I'm a socialist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I dont doubt that they have good lawyers but the law doesn't just have penalties for the people paying out, it also has penalties for accepting it. Even if they were offering free legal services to people who participate it still wouldn't be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They couldn't find me at all :(

[–] tigeruppercut 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hm, the tweet says they need to make a voting plan, not that they need to show that they've officially registered or voted. Loophole?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Try giving that loophole explanation to a Trump appointed judge and see how far that gets you. Do not risk federal charges for this stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Try giving that loophole explanation to any reasonable and professional judge and see how far that gets you.

Flip the sides and I would be surprised if a Trump appointed judge didnt accept some kind of bullshit loophole like this.

I love CAH as much as the next degen but this feels iffy at best. But also they presumable ran this passed at least one lawyer who said ‘fuck it lets ball’ so maybe there is a leg to stand on here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really do not think its worth gambling with federal charges over (up to*)$100, but if you're willing to risk it by all means, submit to their public shaming for a pittance, or implicate yourself by contributing. I just want people to know what they're getting into.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My guy, I’m agreeing with your point. This probably wouldn’t hold up as legal in court, but also IANAL.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

apologies, I misread. i'm maybe a little more annoyed about this than I realized.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Trump appointed judges should just be ignored then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

They're not paying you to vote, they're paying for you to apologize. I'm sure they have sufficient legal backing.