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Such an unbelievably talented and driven group of people. Having a full blown version of Fedora on Apple silicon would probably convince me to buy a macbook for my next laptop.
Buy a framework laptop instead!
https://frame.work/
Kinda hard to buy a Framework when they don't sell to your country! Framework laptops are only available in a handful of areas, whereas Macbooks are sold in almost every country on Earth.
after using the m1 air, I'm sold on arm
it doesn't have fans so no complaints of noise (my old laptop gave me ptsd of fan noise and I've also heard framework 12^th^ having fan noise as it has a single fan coupled with a p-series processor)
I'd love to see amd/intel make an arm chip as microsoft also seems to pick-up the windows on arm thing
I haven't tried the amd mainboard yet but I have the 12th Gen Intel framework and the fan is capable of running very loud if you want to take maximum advantage of the processor performance.
Turning off turbo, running thermald etc can give you a more comfortable and quiet experience and longer battery runtime if you are prepared to give up that peak performance which is mostly not required. PC hardware sells on unsustainable peak performance tests thanks to the focus of reviewers on those numbers instead of the overall experience.
The Intel cpu gives much worse performance per watt than the m1 but the system it is in is also much easier to repair and upgrade and has much more mature open source support. It is a tradeoff.
I owned and enjoyed using an intel MacBook when they were serviceable and upgradeable. It had a long and productive life and was easily one of the best made laptops available in its time for the money. Framework might not be offering revolutionary CPUs but they make Apple's business of selling disposable closed hardware look extremely dated. I would rather take a small performance hit until the rest of the industry catches up than spend any more of my time and money with Apple. Apple have more engineering talent and money than just about anyone which could be used to make ground breaking sustainable, repairable, open hardware and they always choose to go the other way.
I don't think there are any laptops that have no fans. What if you have a workload that exists, is the cpu just supposed to overheat?
You can disapate heat into the metal chassis without a fan, and if your CPU only generates a few watts, even at 100% this doesn't cause it to overheat. This has been done with desktops that are.much more powerful, but it's also been done on the new M2 MacBook air, because the m2 CPU is quite efficient. It doesn't overheat because the case passively dissapates heat fast enough. It's also not a performance laptop.
Damn, I didn't know that.
that's because apple uses arm chips which are much more power efficient than Intel and amd's x86 chips
it mostly uses 15-20 watts or around that which is easy to dissipate than 45-50 watt Intel and amd produces which requires fan
I've heard even the most powerful m1 max chip doesn't need fan when video editing (which can go for continuous 6 hrs on battery and you don't see a performance hit when charging or on battery)
The MacBook Air with the M2 chip is fanless as well. If it gets to hot, performance is downgraded.
Note that the people behind the Asahi don't yet recommend getting a MacBook for the sole reason of running Asahi on it.
With better battery life compared to apple macOS. I'm in. SELINUX I'm IN!