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Is it really federated social media now though? With how much .world has grown, they could disable federation and be their own walled garden.
| instance | active users monthly | |
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| | lemmy.world | 34436 | | lemmy.ml | 6716 | | lemm.ee | 4265 |
Like, they have nearly 5x more active users than .ml at this point, how ridiculous is that?
I feel like it’s been so active because app developers almost all default to lemmy.world. It’s a bit concerning honestly, I wish things were a bit more spread out because everyone is at the mercy of Lemmy world and as we’ve seen several times it doesn’t look like the admins of the instance are making decisions based on community feedback.
I suspect most people who joined Lemmy ended up on .world because they would have gone here first:
https://join-lemmy.org/
For a while Lemmy.World was one of the first ones you came across; between that, the open signups and the “general purpose” moniker, rapid growth was probably inevitable.
Add the fact that lemmy.ml and others were/still are doing applications for sign up instead of an automated system. I applied twice for a .ml account and never got a single response, not even a denial or "your application is being processed". I have no idea if my application was ever even seen.
On the other hand, I signed up to lemmy.world and kbin.social in minutes and have been using them ever since.
I was tempted to join .ml but the banner at the top of the application form was discouraging. Went to .world and here we are.
Yeah, it felt a lot like "you need to prove you're worthy" more than just proving you're not a bot.
I mean, if I wanted a walled garden I'd just go back to Reddit. Federation is part of lemmy's beauty, but if the imposition of a particular mindset through defederation becomes the norm, why would anyone respond with anything but defederation?
In short: why tolerate intolerance?
This is my take. I choose the instance that fits best for me, and I know what my admin, u/db0, uses as his litmus test for defederation. As long as you find the instance that is handled how you want, you can avoid whatever side of Lemmy you choose. That's not to say badmins don't exist or won't replace the good ones eventually, but that's the nature of decentralization. You have to be prepared to move in those cases. That's why I bounced from .world real quick.
5x actually isn't that bad!
I was worried about a 90-9-1 situation, with .world dominating 90% of the fediverse.
It's actually really bad. With how big it is, it's now the default for even new mobile applications, which means it will now only grow bigger. 5x is just the start. We are just seeing the start of the centralised decentralised Lemmyverse.