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Just had NextCloud denying my credentials (not for the first time). I know they weren't wrong because I'm using a password manager. Logs didn't say much. Was about to reinstall (again, not the first time nextcloud went bonkers on me) before I tried a docker compose down && docker compose up. Lo and behold after a restart the credentials worked again.

This stuff is just way too flaky for something so important.

Is OwnCloud good again? My main usecase is saving photos but I don't want them locked away in a database so SeaFile is out.

Edit: I'm going to take the time to reply to you all, bit busy with work and family suddenly. But a little update - I've quickly setup Immich and fired up the CLI to import my library. AFAIK the files are still stored on disk somewhere but metadata is in a database. I didn't realize this before, knowing that I think my mind is made up and Immich is the best solution. Thanks everyone!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I am using nextcloud for years now with postgres, redis and configured PHP setttings, but I installed it on the host. Never had any problems, Performance is awesome... Almost everytime I read about problems is with the docker images. The new AIO image shall be bad too, but I can not say anything to this, since I don't use it.

I really like docker, but sometimes it is better to install on the host directly or use an LXC if you need isolation. MinIO is the same... Would not want it in a Container

Maybe seafile could be an option for you πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bare metal club! :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how I ran my nextcloud for about a decade and never had problems. On my new server I'm running it in docker and so far it seems to work ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good to hear that it is running ☺️

Did you follow a specific guide or did you migrate yourself? Which image are you using? Maybe this could help others

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I tried to run it on Debian and on each update it was always complaining the php version too old. Maybe on a distro that doesn't come with ancient packages can be ok...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Been running multiple Nextcloud instances for years on bog standard debian + apache + php-fpm install, as documented in the official docs which do not even mention docker. Upgrades were never a problem. Some apps may suffer some bugs from time to time, but Nextcloud itself works flawlessly. Wrote an ansible role to install, manage and update it. The only thing that deviates from the "recommended" setup is Postgres instead of MariaDB. People need to start following the actual documented/well-supported installation options and not try to stick containers everywhere...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The docs are very good and you have a lot of tutorials for nextcloud, bit mostly they scratch only on the surface. They show you how to install and if you are lucky you see how to setup HTTPS....

But then? Start nextcloud and go to system overview and everything is red and you get warnings about region, php opcache... 😁 Most tutorials end there. It is a pity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wanted to +1 your comment. Installing on bare metal host is higher risk, but higher reward as well in terms of stability and performance. In my case I’m using mariaDB, redis, php, and apache and it’s been solid for years now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used it with mariadb before, converting to postgres gave a performanceboost. Don't ask me why but it ran faster

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