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Saudi Arabia executes 213 people in less than 10 months, setting new record (www.middleeasteye.net)

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Saudi Arabia has executed 213 people so far in 2024, more than it has in any other calendar year on record, as the kingdom competes for a seat at the UN Human Rights Council (HRC). According to the London-based rights group Reprieve, which documents the death penalty worldwide, the largest recorded figure prior to this year was 196 in 2022, followed by 184 in 2019.

“As the world's attention fixates on horror elsewhere in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is clearing death row with a bloodbath,” Reprieve’s deputy director, Harriet McCulloch, told MEE.

“The Kingdom smashed its own grim record for most people executed in a year in the first nine months of 2024,” she added. “With 213 executions and counting, death row prisoners are at greater risk than ever before, their families desperately awaiting news of their fate in the news.”

The executions are taking place under the government of Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman, the kingdom’s prime minister and de facto leader, who pledged in a 2018 interview to minimise capital punishment.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As long as the majority of Muslims want Shariah Law it makes no difference whether it is an absolute monarchy or a democracy. There's a lot of crimes that require capital punishment in Islam.

Depending on where you live, even in the West, capital punishment is popular.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would like to reserve capital punishment for people in support of capital punishment. I know that means me too but if I get to take the rest of them along with me that's still a good deal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My only issue with it is that it is irreversible and the system fails too often to be trusted with it. I wouldn’t object to it if no innocent victims were executed, I believe too many people are irredeemable. But the world is imperfect, better to stay safe and only apply reversible punishments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We know the best court in the land will fail about 4% of the time. That's the best we can in our nightmarish surveillance state.

Bitcoin you mean irredeemable, you mean they can be released from prison and start creating value. Like we have to keep them in a box and pay for the box.

You mean we should execute them because they are a net resource loss to keep alive in the box yes ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did I use redeem wrong? I thought it comes from redemption. Some people cannot be rehabilitated and will always be a danger to others.

We know the best court in the land will fail about 4% of the time.

Lower than I expected but still too high for something irreversible. When the failure rate is 0% then, in my opinion, capital punishment can be justly applied. Since that would never be achieved, no state should have the power to execute. I don't oppose it of religious or moral reasons, I don't think it is wrong in ideal terms, but I don't think flawed and biased people can be trusted with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't care if the state legal bureacracy can go back in time and know for sure. Still unacceptable. Also, prisons, unacceptable for anything in their current form.

We put people in prison for our societal convenience, we want to kill or enslave them for economic reasons. It is collectively a greater crime than all crimes by all criminals.

There's what 4 million in prison in US alone. In specifically designed places to be open pits of hell. If that is civilisation then it deserve to taste activation of the MAD doctrine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No. It absolutely makes a difference if a state is free or ruled by some tyrant. Saudi Arabia here is a prime example.

Some stats that were hard to find: https://imgur.com/a/executions-by-country-2012-SYIwN