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A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy.

Detoxing masculinity since 1990!

You don’t get points for feminism, feminism is expected.

Guidelines:

  1. Questions over blame
  2. Humility over pride
  3. Wisdom over dogma
  4. Actions over image

Rules (expansions on the guidelines):

  1. Mistakes should be learning experiences when possible.
    • Do not attack comrades displaying vulnerability for what they acknowledge are mistakes.
    • If you see good-faith behavior that's toxic, do your best to explain why it's toxic.
    • If you don't have the energy to engage, report and move on.
    • This includes past mistakes. If you've overcome extreme reactionary behavior, we'd love to know how.
    • A widened range of acceptable discussion means a greater need for sensitivity and patience for your comrades.
    • Examples:
      • "This is reactionary. Here's why."
      • "I know that {reality}, but I feel like {toxicity}"
      • "I don't understand why this is reactionary, but it feels like it {spoilered details}"
  2. You are not entitled to the emotional labor of others.
    • Constantly info-dumping and letting us sort through your psyche is not healthy for any of us.
    • If you feel a criticism of you is unfair, do not lash out.
    • If you can't engage self-critically, delete your post.
    • If you don't know how to phrase why it's unfair, say so.
  3. No singular masculine ideal.
    • This includes promoting gender-neutral traits like "courage" or "integrity" as "manly".
    • Suggestions for an individual to replace a toxic ideal is fine.
    • Don't reinforce the idea the fulfillment requires masculinity.
    • This also includes tendency struggle-sessions.
  4. No lifestyle content.
    • Post the picture of your new grill in !food (feminine people like grills too smh my head).
    • Post the picture of the fish you caught in !sports (feminine people like fish too smdh my damn head).
    • At best, stuff like this is off-topic. At worst, it's reinforcing genders norms..
    • If you're not trying to be seen as masculine for your lifestyle content, it's irrelevant to this comm. If you are trying to be seen as masculine, let's have a discussion about why these things are seen as masculine.

Resources:

*The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks

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Please chime in with the type of content and discussion you would like to see hear.

I’ve left up all the old posts instead of doing a thorough pruning (apparently it closed due to a lack of moderation letting too much slip through the cracks). If you’re interested in helping out without posting or moderating please report actively, while there is value in calling out in the comments and trying to teach leaving anything egregious up for too long could promote people blocking the comm even if they might otherwise want to see the “good” posts and/or milder learning opportunities.

Should probably do a poll on whether to be local only as well once it’s active again. So Sopranos emotes if you have an opinion on that.

Cheers

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Uhh, alright, so my brain is broken, apparently. What do I do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

let’s talk about that. Let us find how we are broken and find a fix. Where to start?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Actually, I should take this more seriously. So, I have an extremely deeply-rooted fear, and tbh also kind of resentment, over the experience of being persistently socially ostracized & isolated for all of my childhood, and much of my adulthood. This is itself basically a function of me being autistic, and having been placed in special education from a very young age. I've always understood myself to be distinct from, and in a sense, less capable than everybody else around me.

Today, this kind of manifests in a way as an obsession over trying to find romantic, and sexual successes (of which I have of course had none). This is because of a number of factors, but probably one of the biggest ones is age. I'm in my early/mid-thirties now, and it's difficult to do anything except hang around discord chat groups (which I also don't really do, because I'm terminally asocial), because pretty much anyone in my age-range IRL is going to be involved with their own families.

I have nieces, and a sister that I hang out with a lot, and I do like them; and apparently I am their favorite uncle, but also I don't really like being relegated to having basically the same social role as the robot from Big Hero Six.

It's all very frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I heavily relate to this. Shitty childhood from constantly moving, being different from everyone around me and being bullied to the point I was pulled out of multiple schools, and the subsequent lack of being socialized properly. Probably not autistic, but definitely borderline.

It really does feel (sometimes) that I’ve missed the last boat, but something that helps me and might help you is not losing sight of that people do find love later in life. We can fix things and find somebody. It’s just going to take a lot of work. What that entails exactly is going to require somebody else who’s actually figured it out. We can get there though.

Congrats on being the favorite uncle! You’re doing something right for sure. I have not seen big hero six, so I hope that saying your family loving you isn’t diminishing the point you were getting at. I apologize if so.

If you have any ideas on turning this comm into a positive space please share them!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

that guy got banned over some gross shit he said in the announcement.

i have some of empathy for his despair but our happiness isn't, our lives aren't, worth the subjugation of billions.