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PC Gamer: The top 100 PC games (www.pcgamer.com)

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Quite a good list, although without any real surprises, except for the cheeky inclusion of a recent fan-made PC port. I'm glad Kerbal Space Program is on it, but a few other personal favorites (and candidates for best game of all time) are absent, like The Talos Principle, BeamNG.drive, NEO Scavenger, World of Goo, Mafia, Machinarium and Gothic II. Jets'n'Guns - a very early Indie masterpiece of a 2D space shooter - as well, but it's a bit too obscure for these kinds of lists. I'll stop here before I accidentally create my own top 100.

Are your favorite PC games well-represented by this list?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This list is offensive to say the least. Valheim at 100 and then goes on to show like 60ish games that are shit in comparison to that masterpiece.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are not even 10 bad games on that list. Might not be to your taste, but that does not make them shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say any of these games were shit. I said that many of them were shit IN COMPARISON to Valheim, which is objectively true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What if I told you I find Valheim to be just fine, so I am surprised it is on this list? The subjectiveness of enjoying a game is a very large spectrum

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Honestly, there were a TON of games I was surprised to find on this list, but Valheim was not one of them.

Multiplayer games are especially vulnerable to the subjectiveness of enjoyment because not everybody has the same set of friends or experiences with their friends in the game, assuming they played with friends at all.

That said, I've been playing games for decades and I would put forth that even single player Valheim with no access to multiplayer would deserve to be much higher than the 100 placement on this terrible list.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would say that it's offensive to put Early Access games on those lists. It clouds people's judgment as they are valued with different standards and are expected to get better (especially if more people support the game). Any game that's not fully released is a 0/10 in my book even if they were my favorite games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Valheim was a better game in it's first version than a lot of the games that are "complete" on this list.

I get where you're coming from, and certainly some games don't deserve to even be sold in their "early access" state. However, I think saying none of them should count at all is a bit ridiculous.

Valheim offered hundreds of hours worth of entertainment even in the early versions and has only improved since then. It only takes up 1gb of data through some miracle, and runs fairly well even on the steam deck.

Honestly it puts many of the other titles on the list to shame. Ignoring it because the dev wants to continue providing MORE free updates instead of calling the game finished and then charging for "DLC" is not a reason to punish the studio, if anything they should be looked to as an example of what other devs should do.