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It's a situation that I have been expecting for a while, but I wasn't fully ready to accept it. Specifically it's one of my LGBTQ friends who honestly believes in the democrats will protect them and their partner. I have tried to make the point that both parties are eroding any sort of civility towards all marginalized groups, but fear seems to drive them more than logical observations. They make the excuse that change doesn't happen over night and that the left continues to grow and will have meaningful affects down the road. I fundamentally just don't agree with that idea and vocalize it regularly. More and more it is ending up in a circular argument where I am painted as unrealistic and my rhetoric (leftist rhetoric) is doing more harm than good because it promotes distrust in the only system we have to work with. I try to tell them it's kind of the whole point. We gotta start somewhere if we want to see a better, more representative system, but they are so hung up on the immediate future while simultaneously saying that my idealistic feelings are shortsighted and I cant expect change in the immediate future... The double-talk is wild, I know.

I am trying my hardest to stop from engaging at this point because on the most basic level we agree on a lot of stuff, but they are just way to wrapped up in the fear mongering of the democratic party. They know that the two party system is broken, they know that something drastic needs to change, but they also think that they are powerless to do anything except choose the lesser evil. It pains me because I am watching them do the same shit past generations have done, where they give up on their ideals for the sake of preserving the current status quo that they benefit from. I am legitimately watching them imply "fuck you, got mine" under the guise of civic duty and I hate it. I want nothing more than to be able to finally say "I told you so" without being a smug asshole about it and ruining our friendship.

Thanks for reading my rant. It's probably a bit disjointed, but the frustration is boiling over and I needed to vent to the only group of people that seems to understand the hopelessness of being a disenfranchised leftist.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Covid has a peculiar connection to climate change for me: in both cases, the crisis didn't go anywhere, it's getting worse all the time, but "I fucking love science" bazingas in both cases want to look at hyped up "good news" then return to whatever they were already doing, trying to silence people for caring too much about either.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. I should have realized covid wouldn't be solved because of how climate change denialism is hegemonic but silly me, I thought people might be able to learn

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

right there with you – I foolishly thought it might be a turning point that actually made us wake up about climate change 🤦

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There were two good weeks or so where it looked like it was going to be possible. Major outlets were running articles with headlines like "It's weird how much of our lives was actually bullshit" and realizing that commuting to work is optional, etc. Then the reaction set in.

Are there any good books yet about the reactionary turn under Covid / after the George Floyd uprising?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There were two good weeks or so where it looked like it was going to be possible. ... Then the reaction set in.

the whiplash from this wounded my heart and then my social circle. genuinely, truly, I had real hope again for a minute, and the way my own friends and family were so eager to just ignore the pandemic and get back to "Normal" shocked me and ruined my regard for those people.

I genuinely thought better of all of them, or I wouldn't have been their friend.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This, this, one thousand times this. We learned that most jobs are inessential! And then we gave the "essential workers" a new honorific, but not sick days!

In my neighborhood someone had a sign that said "Instead of 'back to normal,' shouldn't we try for something better?" But then all the hogs brayed and insisted that things get worse. And so they did.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People call me doomer but I am just witnessing events as they unfold. I do not have hope that it will get better anymore. I don’t.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

good-lord deep-nesting

Not often get to use this so yeah just interesting to see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same here! I have all but said this to my one friend. I don’t think the system is equipped to make meaningful change nor do I think society is equipped to make meaningful change to the system.

It’s the major point of contention with my lib friends that yearn for the life they were promised even when they are clearing seeing that it’s not obtainable and probably never was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is a theme I’m struggling with a lot. My friends think that them being receptive of my reasons for not joining them for dinner is them caring. They made plans to go out and “since you don’t dine out anymore we understand if you won’t join us, nothx”. How about acknowledging me with a compromise instead of just a passive aggressive “we understand, maybe next time?”

Personalizing this was just my way of relating, but the sentiment is that they really don’t care much more than what will keep good optics. They tote their vaccine status and order the free expired COVID test, but won’t act accordingly when the disease and its affects stare them in the face.