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Okay, so background: I'm your average pro-gun fuck-the-police, fuck-trump zoomer honed by years of unsupervised internet access and I've just discovered this community and started lurking for a while. But I still hold extremely negative views on China, which I still think are justified.

"Which views?" I'll throw them out real quick: child labor! internet censorship! media censorship! anti-LGBTQ! uygher genocide? positive and pro war relations with russia! (because fuck putin)

So I get really confused anytime I see people expressing pro-China sentiments. Have I been spoonfed by the media or are some of these points actually justified?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

internet censorship! media censorship! positive and pro war relations with russia!

I came to the realization a year or two ago that, we've seen what the CIA and the USA is willing to do to its own country. MKULTRA, Tuskeegee, endless examples really. But countries that we're openly hostile toward, I can't imagine how much worse the shit is we're trying to do to them. Of course there's known examples like Agent Orange and the comical amount of assassination attempts against Castro :fidel-cool:, but really, it's not my place to judge a country for doing what they have to to defend against having the CIA up their ass. I can't see the attack and of course the USA's gonna paint their defense as completely baseless evil shit done for no reason.

Obviously I take issue with a lot of stuff on an ideological level, but I also try to keep in mind that these are countries under siege.