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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Isn't "1+1" the definition of 2?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That assumes that 1 and 1 are the same thing. That they’re units which can be added/aggregated. And when they are that they always equal a singular value. And that value is 2.

It’s obvious but the proof isn’t about stating the obvious. It’s about making clear what are concrete rules in the symbolism/language of math I believe.

[–] GregorGizeh 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Not a math wizard here: wouldn't either of the 1s stop being 1s if they were anything but exactly 1.0? And instead become 1.xxx or whatever?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

1.xxx and 1.xxy are still 2 numbers, so 1+1=2.

Gottem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In base 2 binary for example the digits are 0 and 1. Counting from 0 up would look like 0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, 1000, 1001, 1010, 1011, 1100, 1101, 1110, 1111, 10000, etc

In that case 1 + 1 = 10

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Using the Peano axioms, which are often used as the basis for arithmetic, you first define a successor function, often denoted as •' and the number 0. The natural numbers (including 0) then are defined by repeated application of the successor function (of course, you also first need to define what equality is):

0 = 0
1 := 0'
2 := 1' = 0''

etc

Addition, denoted by •+• , is then recursively defined via

a + 0 = a
a + b' = (a+b)'

which quickly gives you that 1+1=2. But that requires you to thake these axioms for granted. Mathematicians proved it with fewer assumptions, but the proof got a tad verbose

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The "=" symbol defines an equivalence relation. So "1+1=2" is one definition of "2", defining it as equivalent to the addition of 2 identical unit values.

2*1 also defines 2. As does any even quantity divided by half it's value. 2 is also the successor to 1 (and predecessor to 3), if you base your system on counting (or anti-counting).

The youtuber Vihart has a video that whimsically explores the idea that numbers and operations can be looked at in different ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'll always upvote a ViHart video.