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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Dude, WHAT. This is totally against what Linux and Open source in general stand for.

I don't support the thing that I'm sure was their reason for this but I definitely don't support banning someone from contributing to an open system solely off nationality.

So what eventually only the "good guys" can contribute to and use open source software? Who exactly decides who the "good guys" are in this scenario? USA? China?

The implications of what this can cause in the future for potentially all of the open source community is absolutely sad. We should welcome all our fellow human beings to contributing to open source.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, being from Russia is a lot different from being associated with the Russian government. If the maintainers are in the latter, then yeah fuck em, but if they live in Russia with no realistic way of getting out and they’re just trying to live a normal life removed from the bullshit and write code as an intellectual escape? And you take that away from them? Precisely how you radicalize people

[–] [email protected] 2 points 38 minutes ago

Yeah, being from Russia is a lot different from being associated with the Russian government.

Lies! You're a communist! Russian troll!

/s for the obtuse

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

...and we don't know whether they're the former or the latter, no? So maybe a little early to get outraged?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 36 minutes ago (2 children)

Considering the US foreign policy and the impact it has on the world, regardless of whether the white house is R or D, i propose to ban all american devs... preemptively, ya know?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I don't see what this has to do with my comment. I see no indication that all Russians are blanket-banned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

@0x0 @Vincent Yea well that makes about as much sense as banning the Russians, maybe we can stop development of Linux altogether. I'm sure Gatis of Borg would approve.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

As far as I can read from that, they're still maintainers, just have had their credit removed from the contributors page, no?

Still a strange thing to do and I look forwards to an explanation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a comment the other day on a post about Ventoy. Whatever the situation there is, which definitely needs clarification still, the person was saying that you shouldn't trust it at all because the maintainer is Chinese, even though he has emigrated away. Because the CCP will be able to leverage his family still there to force him to create a backdoor.

That's just thinly veiled racism in my opinion.

[–] possiblylinux127 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That's plain racism honestly.

I knew a (asian) guy who was working for a government contractor serving the US military. The racism is very serious to say the least. He got framed when something went down and was almost tried with treason. (that carries the death penalty) The authorities hit him with questions about his loyalty to the US for 5 hours even though he grew up in the US and so did his parents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

@BobGnarley @kixik Yep this is definitely not a step forward.