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[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you believe they’re starving their kids directly then this newspaper is too difficult for you

Of course they're not suggesting they're 'starving their kids directly', but what they are doing is sidelining the colonial power actually responsible for their starvation and instead holding up an inaccurate and bigoted portrayal of their religious practices as a stand-in for Israel's culpability.

To blame Muslims for Israel's sustained genocidal bombardment of innocent Gazans is a level of depraved racist bigotry I honestly never thought I'd witness in my time. The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't call others Nazis. Not allowed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What about when they're actually a Nazi?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What makes you think they're a nazi?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't, but you stated that like it's an absolute community rule.

Do we need to report suspicious antisocial behavior to the commissars or can we say someone saying actual Nazi things is a Nazi?

Does "don't be a dick" still apply to justified accusations based on evidence, in other words?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you don't think they are a nazi, then what's your concern?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Future reference for when actual Nazis wander in, as they always will to any community that seems to focus on criticizing communists.

Or 40k.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, I'm quite experienced with Neo-nazis, and I'm aware of all the tactics they use, same with other extremists. They are not in this community.

If you find any, you be sure to let me know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can just say "it's an absolute rule" then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You said "Don't call people Nazis in this sub, ever."

I said "Even if they're literally Nazis? Or do we just report them to the authorities for detention and separation from civilized society?"

Then you said "Yes."

Which is fine, I just wanted clarity that Nazis are for banning, not responding to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Okay, great.

they aren't a nazi though, just want to make that clear

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Point to where I called him a Nazi and I'll disavow communism and join the IOF.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

why disavow communism?

The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That Nazis did blame the Jews for their own extermination, and that is what that person was doing.

Nowhere did I say that he was a Nazi.

Close, but thanks for following directions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That Nazis did blame the Jews for their own extermination, and that is what that person was doing.

lol

'I didn't call him a nazi! I said that he's being a nazi! completely different.'

@[email protected], do you feel as if he called you a nazi?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lmao I didn't even say he was being a nazi, I said he was using the same rhetoric the Nazis used

He could think I called him a platypus, that wouldn't make it accurate.


edit: conspicuously absent is your opinion on if what he was doing was blaming the Palestinian Genocide on their Islamic beliefs, and if (to your recollection) the Nazis also blamed the Jews for their own genocide. Fair if you don't think so, but you've so far avoided elaborating on your opinion on Islam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I did warn them, I've linked this warning to you already but I'll do so again

and I didn't know I was meant to voice my opinion on islam? if you wanna know my views dude, just ask lol

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then I'm not sure why you thought I called him a Nazi, I was very clear about what I was accusing him of and apparently you agree (though, on second reading it doesn't look like you said you agreed, just that you warned him, so maybe you don't agree with my accusation?)

Not my fault he picked that particular bigoted apple off that particular tree. (not that picking a bigoted apple makes one a bigot)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't see an issue with it, no.

But I also need to be neutral, so I'll leave it to his input if he takes offence to your comparison. I try not to make Nazi comparisons, as it never ends well, you should try the same.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago

I don’t see an issue with it, no.

Erm. Well. That's rough, but I can't say I didn't expect it.