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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Drag doesn't believe in lesbians. Drag thinks they're just gay women. There's no reason gay women are special in a way that gay men and gay enbies aren't. The only reason we have the word lesbian, is because sexist old men didn't think women could really be gay. We should just get rid of the word and say gay woman instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

We should just get rid of the word and say gay woman instead

Or how ‘bout this radical idea - we should let lesbians decide what word to call themselves? It’s awfully odd to decide to redefine a group of people without getting that group’s input on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

https://www.womensrepublic.net/the-demonization-of-the-word-lesbian/

It has come to my attention that many homosexual women— myself included— struggle to identify with the label “lesbian” and prefer the all-encompassing terms “queer” or “gay.” As I reflect on my own coming-out experience, I recall an instant desire to distance myself from the word entirely

Numerous factors, such as false media representation, negative stereotypes, and fetishization, have resulted in the rejection of the term lesbian by today’s queer women. So, I pose the question: with such a tainted image of the lesbian persona, is the word worth saving and reclaiming? As the modern queer women reject their pre-determined submissive gender roles, is it time for a new term to take the stage?

https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/why-i-dont-identify-as-a-lesbian-anymore-26d673561e62

These days, the word lesbian is a weapon, for TERFs and biphobes and exclusionists of all stripes. And what was I defending it for, in the first place? So I could go on using a different word for feminine gayness because femininity is so different from other gender presentations?

I don’t use the word anymore because I’m a good deal convinced that the bigots may as well have it. It never brought the lot of us any actual good in My lifetime. Maybe one day, “lesbian” will mean a transphobic gay woman. And the rest of us “sapphics”, if you must put a specific label on it, will just be accepted as normal-ass gay people, the same as gay people of any gender identity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Bad take.

You’re erasing the existence of Sappho, who was so gay for girls that the island she came from—the place heretofore unknown for anything—is now known for just how goddamn queer she was, and everyone who experiences sapphic love (hey, another word that got coined off of one poet’s fantastically omnipresent woman lust).

Lesbians. Sapphic lesbians. From Lesbos. That Sappho started. Why?

Girls pretty.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

And yet nobody calls gay men thessalians, despite Achilles being from Thessaly. It's because we don't need to, we already have the word gay. The only reason we don't just use the word gay for women, is that homophobes thought women couldn't be gay. They needed a euphemism. We don't need a euphemism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Let’s make things clear: you don’t need a euphemism.

I want more euphemisms. I want this language to have some goddamn options and I want the number of words in this language to never fucking decrease for any reason.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago) (1 children)

Drag thinks that means you want words like aryan and the N word with the hard R to stick around, and drag doesn't like that opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Every single one of those words should exist. Even the slurs. That way, we know who’s trouble.

Motherfucker, I do not believe I made myself clear, so allow me to retort:

Languages should not ever shrink at all. Ever. Shrinking languages is some nazi-ass, 1984-ass fascist shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Isn't that kind of hypocritical for you to say, though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

It is not.

To censor a language is to censor thought itself.

And if slurs and insults become censored and incapable of thought, what else is on the table, up for removal? Words about being queer, words about body rights, words about lived experiences, words that aren’t fucking corpo-washed.

I have made my point in an unerring straight goddamn line.

Languages should not shrink for any goddamn reason.

Now go to bed, it’s 5:37 in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

No, drag means it's hypocritical of you, because drag invented a new word and you didn't use it. In fact, you used a different, more common word instead during the appropriate time to use drag's word.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

I don’t have to use your word, I can use whatever words I want. It’s why there are options.

You can use whatever words you want too, and you don’t have to use the words I provide.

You don’t have to use the words anyone provides, and no one has to use the words you provide.

This is how language develops, how styles and dialect and vocabulary develops.

And you can stay up and fill my inbox, I don’t care anymore, but I’m going to sleep. To bed. Conk out. Hitting the hay. Getting some rest. Zonk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Drag doesn't understand why you're so insistent on making the english language smaller and preventing people from expressing themselves with new words. Maybe your views are just flip-flopping to whatever lets you deny the self-expression of queer people. It sure feels that way when you refuse to use drag's neopronouns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't know that I agree, or really have the basis to form an opinion, but upvote for sharing your opinion.