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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It's like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (7 children)

Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.

But that they take Newpipe... which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything...

Other apps are

  • OSMAnd~
  • OrganicMaps
  • Grayjay
  • Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
  • Amethyst, Voyage

Those are really unique on Android

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I've been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB

It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron

But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.

Grayjay is king at block circumvention

[–] [email protected] 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm using NewPipe daily and it doesn't seem broken at all?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I use a VPN with NewPipe, no problems. I'm using the NewPipe repo for the app

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ditto here. NewPipe + VPN works fine on my tablet I use as a YouTube machine. The only problems have been when YT messes with stuff to try to block them, and then NewPipe will have it fixed usually within a day. And that doesn't happen as often as people think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

Depends on what VPN server you use then I guess.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

it's worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven't been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.

EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Interesting, so the Android SELinux sandbox can work with Apparmor?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The OrganicMaps for "regular" Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.

[–] red 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

in what situation would you need turn by turn navigation on Linux???

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

For a linux phone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.

No VPN or anything, it works great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes with no VPN it will work easier

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that's broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That's how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn't have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you'll get that same problem though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Yes I assume this increases many issues.

This might also explain why sometimes the one, sometimes the other app (desktop vs phone) is broken

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which version of Newpipe are you using? You'll want to use their latest release repository rather than the 'stable' one, that seems to make it work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I get the Nightly from Github

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Oh, hmmm, no idea then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

hey! don't be mean like that to my baby...