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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I understand the poster may be very emotional because of the election. Yet, This strikes me as incredibly reductive.

I think she lost because, she represents the continuation of the current administration. People want to break from the status quo, even if that means harming society to do it.

The dems need a left wing populist, asap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Only right wing socialists are electable. Billions of dollars in propaganda told me so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I keep hearing this 'status quo' excuse but no one ever explains what the fuck that's supposed to even mean.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Unpopular, uncharismatic, neoliberal establishment candidates that are pushed down the throat of democratic party voters (Hillary, Biden, Kamala)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have no idea what people mean by neoliberalism, since it seems to be different every time, but there are an awful lot of article from actual experts, saying the opposite. As a simplification, neoliberalism is associated with reduced regulation of businesses at the expense of people, yet so many of Biden policies have been strengthening the role if actual people for the first time in decades. Do you have any idea how many decades it’s been since a president gave real support to unions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Personally I see it as politicians that pay lip service to social causes while being corporate capitalist shills. Amazon, Google and other corporations are all bigger than ever, fleecing the employees and gouging the customers while holding a monopoly on essential services.

Sorry im worked up, but being sincere for a second, was there an attempt by Biden to break up these megacorp? And to stop price gouging? And increase pay to prioritize workers instead of share holder value?

I still believe that democrats are better for the workers than Republicans. And Trump will absolutely wreck the economy. But the democratic party has only done the bare fucking minimum

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Biden's administration got an anti-mononopoly ruling against Google and had no plans to stop there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I also wish they acted more quickly, more assertively instead of always playing centrist, however real change can be slow and gradual. I do believe it’s the nature of the beast, not just cautiousness.

  • Real change requires stability over time, not instant gratification
  • flipping back and forth every four years can only make things worse, and has
  • real change requires foundational change, but also needs to be incorporated throughout.

For example, bringing back unions may be one of the most important ways to restore a healthy worker class, but they don’t just appear. Biden gave more support for unions than any president I’ve seen. It’s especially notable that he was criticized for tempering efforts to bring back manufacturing, to build an electronics supply chain, a renewable energy supply chain, with union requirements. They would take time and need continued nurturing but could have started faster without the union commitment. In this vision, as that manufacturing rose over the years, unions would rise with it, and help rebuild a healthy working class. But you can see how this would take years. It will never be sudden improvement, exciting turnaround, but if we were able to build strong unions, it will not just grow better conditions for most of us, but reinforce that, strengthen that, keep it alive over the inevitable regressive backlash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've had this argument with self described progressives several times. They do not understand what Neoliberalism is, even when linked 200 level ideologies study material about it. They want it to mean "Secretly the worst conservative". It's an outgrowth of the idea that both parties are the same. As such they must lump liberals in with actual Neoliberals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The exact same DNC also pushed Obama down our throats who had the same policies as all those canidates, and that turned out great

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Great? Wasn't it that Obamas ambivalence towards lower offices and rise of identity politics that ushered an era of Republican obstructionists and things barely got passed, if at all?

Bernie would've mopped the floor with Trump. But instead we got the wife of a pervert who has the charisma of a hangnail, and who on top of that, actively promoted Trump in Republican primaries because she thought he'd be an easy candidate to beat.

Ignoring, gaslighting, belittling, and berating the electoral base is not how you gather support

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Newt Gingrich ushered in the era of Republican obstructionism in the 80s-90s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Obama vowed to transform health care and he did. Biden Harris did not have any policy aspirations at all.

This should teach the DNC that if you run on even a modest progressive policy that even the republicans want, you will win. And if you dont, you will lose. You dont even need to stop calling the progressives names, you just need to make peoples lives better and more Just.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Obama vowed to transform health care and he did. Biden Harris did not have any policy aspirations at all.

This just isn't true at all

Process reality

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

status quo means the current state of things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm aware of the phrase's meaning. It's not being used this way from what I can tell.

Seems to me that conservative policy is the status quo. Almost by definition, 'conserving' the way things are, or what they believe it is. As a general trend, the us has leaned much more conservative. This is the status quo.

Changing, progressive policy is literally antithetical to the status quo. A woman in office is not the current state. So why do people say that the dem candidate is the status quo if that makes no sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

There’s definitely an element of misinformation here. Too many people are rebelling against a “status quo” that never existed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They're talking about the administration's policies, not the Zeitgeist of Americans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Liberals would much rather turn to fascism than let a leftist win