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I mean... it's hard to interpret "the problem is her messaging is she didnt come across as a white man with grievances..." as anything but claiming sexism and racism. There's hyperbole there, but blaming the loss on those factors assumes that people couldn't have possibly abstained from voting, or voted against her without those factors. I don't believe that's the case.

Too frequently we call people these things and basically lock them out of discussion. For example, if you called me a racist, I'd no longer trust anything else you said to me because I know myself and clearly you like telling people things you know nothing about. I think that exchange happened with a bunch of people, which is why there were so many people who just assumed many of the things said about Trump were just political lies made to discredit him. After they experienced the same hyperbole themselves.

That said... theres alot of bigots out there too.

To be fair, you and the other commenter just did.

I keep telling myself I won't comment on political posts, and yet here I go again.

If we stop looking at non-voters, and start actually looking at voters, you'll see that Trump gained support among both women and non-white voters. Why is nobody asking about that? I would rather they have stayed home than given Trump the extra vote, but all you hear about now is low turn out in white men. She lost in almost every bloc because she didn't inspire any of the dem base. High turnout skews dem and she was just not an inspiring candidate.

Kamala had no time to campaign, was an unknown to voters despite being the VP, made no strides to distance herself from Biden, and failed to run a cohesive strategy. People just were not excited to vote for her. Do I think a popularity contest is the best way to elect the president, no, but that doesn't change the system that we have.

The race was extremely close, and the fact that Trump GAINED in POC and women blocs probably speaks more to the campaign that was run rather than America's inherent sexism or racism. Just to be clear, America is sexist and racist, and people can be self hating or whatever, but she GAINED points in the white male category and lost in the black male category. Sure, white men should have shown up, but it's very easy to cry "racism/sexism" if you ignore all the other people who didn't show up or the people who DID show up and voted trump. She might've run as well as she could have, but it was a bad campaign.

There was a 5% loss in young voters. I wonder how energized they would have been not just to vote but to donate and volunteer had she run a different campaign. It's easy to Monday morning quarterback, but Joe ruined the chances of a dem winning this year.

If dems still want to blame racism/sexism, then I don't want to see any dems support POC/women in primaries. Dems should only run white males and if I see a POC/woman being pushed again I will assume they want to sabotage that year. I expect "I'm not voting for a POC/woman candidate" to be a well regarded and widespread dem opinion for practicality sake. Either stop running them ever, or admit they can win with better campaign strategies. You can't have it both ways.

Going off these numbers: https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/2024-voter-turnout-election-demographics-trump-harris/3762138/

If you look at the voters who voted for the dem in 2020 and sat out this time it was almost all older white men

Sorry, can I have a source for this? How could they determine the gender of non-voters?

If you look at the voters who voted for the dem in 2020 and sat out this time it was almost all older white men

Jill Stein won 22% of the vote in the fiercely contested city of Dearborn, Michigan, according to a projection from NBC.

Kamala Harris won 28%, while Donald Trump won 47%, according to unofficial results from the city clerk, reported by the network.

Metro Detroit is home to the nation's largest concentration of Arab Americans, with a large proportion of them living in Dearborn. The city—which Democrat Joe Biden won by a 3-to-1 margin in 2020—has been roiled by political turmoil, with many upset with the Biden-Harris administration's handling of the Israel-Hamas war.

Older white man here. I stayed home because of Gaza. I have 3 progressive friends who say the exact same thing. None of us are Muslim, and we're all white and older.
By the way:

Democrats had bet on women showing up in force. They didn’t https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e8z53qyd5o

Again, source?

11mil, and were almost exclusively white men

Got any proof of that? From what i heard she lost 15% of the hispanic vote, women didnt turn out as well as expected, lost 7% of the 18-29 vote, and she even lost some on the black vote. She lost in every demographc but you are trying hard to pin it on one group. So lets see you back your data up.

Oh I'm sorry, only 11 million, my bad. That suddenly decided to become white supremacists out of nowhere when they had rejected trump the first time. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it?