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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This will mainly hurt the American industries. The rest of the world is moving on, whether or not USA is on board.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My concern is for the planet. The US is by far the largest contributor to climate change if you account for the additional emissions from US manufacturing in China. We can’t afford this move backwards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Right? Its just that biological, carbon-based shit on it that's gonna get cooked. This old rock is gonna be just fine. 🥹

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

True. I meant most life. The planet will balance itself once we’re all dead.

[–] Honytawk 1 points 1 month ago

That is why they said "we"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meh. The U.S. probably are also going to be one of the most affected and if Trump enacts all his economic ideas, the U.S. Economy will tank HARD, meaning the contribution to climate change will shrink regardless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Increasing dependency on cheaply made imported goods only increases the emissions from production by nations with lower regulations. Couple that with emissions from increased trade, and I’m not as sure that economic hardship would reduce the US footprint in a noticeable way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's a valid point, but i think it's mute. There are pretty much two options, soviet, planned economic style or further open capitalism. The U.S. doesn't have all resources and the world moves on without the U.S. if it has to. Not only that: Most of the innovation comes from progressive states. If those people just pack up and go somewhere else, things are looking rather bleak for increasing trade. So if there's nobody to be able to pay for it and nobody to design it...things aren't going to increase anything, they are going to decrease "all around".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/11/04/cop29-what-is-the-paris-agreement-and-how-will-countries-be-held-to-account-in-baku

The iconic international climate treaty - the Paris Agreement - includes a pledge to try and keep temperatures from rising by more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

So how are countries doing on sticking to 1.5C or below? Well, not very well. Just last month the UN warned that current climate policies put the world on track for 3.1C of warming by 2100.

Probably going to need to be some change from the current trajectory, if so.