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[–] [email protected] 236 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And now we watch as Christians vote to destroy God’s creation in order to drive vroomier pick-up shit wagons.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Their goal is to bring about the end of days so that they can all be saved and go to heaven. They are literally trying to end the world.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is not an exaggeration. They literally don't care about the world because "we're all going to heaven anyway." I have relatives that have said as much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Like sometimes I can envy the people who believe this shit, how simple a life you must live... So carefree and understanding of others, to let people live their own lives how they want knowing in the end we all get to go to some magical place forever...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This reason is why I laugh about Israel lining up behind the American right wing. Like you guys know what Israel is for according to the bible, right?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I kind of advocate sending them to heaven sooner tbh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And now they got their hands on nukes again, yeeeeiiiii

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Maybe they just think the sooner the planet is destroyed, the sooner they'll be rescued from the rapture.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Is there any way to get them to realize if there’s a hell, this is how they gain admission?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

I think they didn't read the book :/.

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’

Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭41‬-‭45‬ ‭(ESV‬‬)

““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭21‬ ‭(ESV‬‬)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not these psychopaths.

Jesus is their savor, and they will shoot you in the face to prove it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Hell, they'll elect the antichrist to prove it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point there just worshipping the golden calf. They're not Christians anymore.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Come on now. They wouldn't...

Oh right.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Everybody who is signed up to it should impose tariffs or sanctions on those who are not.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s time for the world community to start treating the United States as an environmental, economic, and military threat. We are not a partner. We don’t value the wellbeing of anyone, be they in other countries or our own for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

They just need to "Under the Dome" the whole country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, but we have big trucks so than we can coal-roll and burn rubber all day long...

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This will mainly hurt the American industries. The rest of the world is moving on, whether or not USA is on board.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

My concern is for the planet. The US is by far the largest contributor to climate change if you account for the additional emissions from US manufacturing in China. We can’t afford this move backwards.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True. I meant most life. The planet will balance itself once we’re all dead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Right? Its just that biological, carbon-based shit on it that's gonna get cooked. This old rock is gonna be just fine. 🥹

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/11/04/cop29-what-is-the-paris-agreement-and-how-will-countries-be-held-to-account-in-baku

The iconic international climate treaty - the Paris Agreement - includes a pledge to try and keep temperatures from rising by more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

So how are countries doing on sticking to 1.5C or below? Well, not very well. Just last month the UN warned that current climate policies put the world on track for 3.1C of warming by 2100.

Probably going to need to be some change from the current trajectory, if so.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

It's up to the rest of the world now. We can't put climate action on hold for four years in hopes that a new administration will take over in 2029 that will lead the world in the transition away from fossil fuels.

The world has gotten very used to US leadership since the end of WWII, but that era is over. Maybe it should have ended a long time ago, but now it must. The US can't lead anymore, we lack the competency, efficacy, and morality to lead the world. Someone else is going to have to captain the ship.

I think it's important that America's replacement not be just the next most powerful nation. I think it's time for democracy to go global. We need the nations working together, instead of a single nation dominating the world through military might and economic control. The violent hegemonic orders of the past must be replaced with a global democratic order, based on inclusion, cooperation, and the consent of the governed.

Edit: I realized that I need to explain what I mean when I say that someone other than the US needs to take the leadership role in the transition away from fossil fuels. Climate action in an individual country is a very good thing, and very necessary, but climate change is a global problem. It's great that countries are taking steps to reduce their own GHG emissions, but unless such action is taken everywhere it's not going to be sufficient. GHG emissions have to reach net zero everywhere, not just in a few, relatively wealthy European countries. That will require cooperation and collaboration between nations, and I think that will require leadership. The US cannot be relied upon to lead that effort, so someone else is going to have to.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

On hold? That’s very optimistic of you.

Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations in his first term, during a pandemic, without preparation, rolling us back to the Bush Administration in multiple categories.

I think we’re going to go backwards again, most likely at a faster rate than his last term.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

WWII has been over for almost 80 years. And that era ending with the reputation that America had been carrying since from it, died the day 9/11 happened. Ever since then, America has been struggling, scrambling and trying to come to grips with it's identity. Something that's just been treated as just a huge power struggle, a power struggle of extreme petty matters between two parties. But one party in particular that for every election cycle and terms handed to, have been outright sabotaging what it meant to be America.

And it hasn't gotten any easier. The problem is, is that the candidates of what you seek for a replacement, is very very narrow. There are few superpowers in the world that could do it, the problem is, is that those superpowers are China, Russia and USA. I know there are others and right now if I had to pick a replacement, I'd pick Sweden since they still care about humanitarianism. If we can unite Germany, Sweden and maybe the UK, those combined could replace USA.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

It may need to be the EU. I know the EU isn't a nation, but as a block perhaps Europe has the power and influence to lead the effort. Maybe a new entity needs to be established, a global union of nations. Or maybe a union of continents. Maybe each continent should establish its own union of nations (I think every continent already has some kind of union of one type or another) and then have a global union of continents. I don't necessarily know the best course of action, all I know is the US cannot lead.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

I think the real problem that no one in the US is prepared to deal with is we are the bad guys in almost every situation. Once you peel off the thin veneer of freedom and supposed rights you are left with a militaristic corporate oligarchy. One that regularly uses and abuses human beings.

It is no surprise we played both sides before being involved in WWII. Powerful influential people from the US helped bank roll the Nazi party.

Then when this poison tree bore fruits the Nazi came to the US and other countries asking that we take the Jews.

The same people who backed the Nazi party in the US said hell the fuck no and doomed the Jews to die.

Then we go in killing a shit ton of innocent civilians and declare we are good guys. That's right the people who helped create the Nazi and deny the Jews safety are the good fucking guys. Unfucking believable.

The truth behind the US is so ugly no one can truly face it. This is just one story in the book of fuckups we have perpetrated around the world.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eh, the ocean taking Florida will be a net gain for humanity. I'm looking forward to watching all those republican voters lose their houses.

Anyone with half a brain was looking at projected sea level rise before buying a house, so... ya. Byeeeeee Florida, you won't be missed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I get what you're saying, but I've lived my entire life in Florida and I've never been a supporter of conservative policies. I didn't vote for climate change and I'm certainly not in support of of repealing policies to at least slow it down. Me and my family are going to suffer from this just the same. I understand you want to feel the joy at the suffering of climate change deniers, but there's a lot of people here who don't deserve what we're going to get. A lot of us may not have the ability to just leave and go elsewhere and are going to suffer anyway. Unfortunately, the people who most deserve what they get have enough money to escape it and aren't going to suffer the consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

But according to Ben Shapiro they can just sell their houses and move!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey c'mon - it's either save the world for our descendants or make sure a handful of corporate executives, stockholders and bankers are able to afford more houses and bigger yachts. The choice is obvious, right?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just let him know it’s eight years old and he’ll stay in there until completion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

It’s not like he’ll have to fight Epstein over this one

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Providing he doesn't become a dictator, which is certainly probable, his impacts on the environment will be bad, but not catastrophic.

Historically, when the incumbent is out, the president flips to the other party. Businesses plan strategy out for 5-10-20 years. Trump dismantling regulation won't force them to reconsider their strategy entirely. They'll use the 4 years as breathing room knowing it's probable a democratic executive will return in 2029. They'll slow walk progress, but they aren't going to abandon everything and start ramping up emissions. They still have to sell products in CA and the 16 states that follow CA emissions rules. We already saw that in 2016, auto makers stayed the course. They enjoyed the extra time to get their fleet MPGs up, but they knew time would eventually out and they'd need to be competitive when that happened.

Trumps "drill baby drill" plan sounds good to idiots, but oil is still subject to supply and demand. They already lease more land than they could ever use. They'll use trump to buy up leases that would otherwise go to renewables, but they aren't going to start pumping oil past demand and driving their profits down. Especially considering retaliation tariffs could cut into exports as well.

The IRA benefits red states more than blue and they are already begging GOP leaders to leave it alone. Trump might be able to cut individual tax credits for the middle class. Slow some solar and EV purchases, buy that'll cut into Elon's business as well, so maybe he won't even get that done.

Of course, if he goes full dictator, we're fucked anyway. But if he stays within the confines of our flawed democracy, and money prefers he do so they can continue to buy laws forever, then there's a chance his damage will be confined as well.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Man, I hope whatever being out there that's fucking with us hears this, and it's not just grade-A hopium.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Whew! Biden refused to take aggressive action on climate change like his voters wanted. Glad we're finally on the right track!

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