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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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I don’t know how there aren’t a myriad of problems associated with attempting to emulate the brain, especially with the end goal of destroying livelihoods and replacing one indentured servant for another. In fact, that’s what promoted this post- an advertisement for a talk with my alma mater’s philosophy department asking what happens when see LLMs discover phenomenological awareness.

I admit that I don’t have a ton of formal experience with philosophy, but I took one course in college that will forever be etched into my brain. Essentially, my professor explained to us the concept of a neural network and how with more computing power, researchers hope to emulate the brain and establish a consciousness baseline with which to compare a human’s subjective experience.

This didn’t use to be the case, but in a particular sector, most people’s jobs are just showing up a work, getting on a computer, and having whatever (completely unregulated and resource devouring) LLM give them answer they can find themselves, quicker. And shit like neuralink exists and I think the next step will to be to offer that with a chatgpt integration or some dystopian shit.

Call me crazy, but I don’t think humans are as special as we think we are and our pure arrogance wouldn’t stop us from creating another self and causing that self to suffer. Hell, we collectively decided to slaughter en masse another collective group with feeling (animals) to appease our tastebuds, a lot of us are thoroughly entrenched into our digital boxes because opting out will result in a loss of items we take for granted, and any discussions on these topics are taboo.

Data-obsessed weirdos are a genuine threat to humanity, consciousness-emulation never should have been a conversation piece in the first place without first understanding its downstream implications. Feeling like a certified Luddite these days

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You probably can simulate an intelligent creature in one of those 3ghz pentium processors. There are creatures with relatively simple neuronal systems that are capable of complex thinking, like the pack hunting velvet worms, or those tool using ants.

The thing is that the theory for how that works does not seem to exist. Chat got is a glorified Markov chain. It does not understand what it is saying. It cant it just calculates wich is the most likely token to produce next. It does not manipulate any categories or does anything resembling thought. Wolfram alpha does. That's the true state of the art. But there is a long way to go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

pack hunting velvet worms

jesus-christ

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Researchers also inserted brain organoids into living organisms, which is essentially a man made horrror beyond my comprehension