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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Two state is what the PLO and most Palestinian factions including Hamas want…for now.

Like Lenin said with the treaty of Versailles

The imperialists of France, Britain, etc., are trying to provoke and ensnare the German Communists: “Say that you will not sign the Treaty of Versailles!” they urge. Like babes, the Left Communists fall into the trap laid for them, instead of skilfully manoeuvring against the crafty and, at present, stronger enemy, and instead of telling him, “We shall sign the Treaty of Versailles now.”

Two state solution today. One state (Palestinian) tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Similar was with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Germans delayed it while continuing offensive, and Trotsky played right into their hands while Lenin insisted on signing it immediately. Luckily Central Powers armies collapsed later which effectively annuled their entire gains, and the treaty was formally repealed in Rapallo in 1922.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Aye but the ALP don't want it "For now", they're just picking the centrist option. It's still good, don't get me wrong. But Labor's ability to stumble into sometimes being good should be noted as largely accidental. They're moderate fascists.