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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

If you had looked at the link of this post, you would have read:

Twitch specifies this is conditional: you’re allowed to discuss the political movement of that name, but not “attack or demean another individual or group of people on the basis of their background or religious belief.”

I.e. nothing is masqueraded here as long as they keep to this. This seems to be a reasonable policy. I've seen a couple of instances of people being derogatorily called zionists just for supporting the people of current Israel not being pushed away out of their now decades-old homes, which is hard to still call Zionist if they don't support any further expansion and any offensive military action.

There's almost never anything gained to use "Zionist" on someone as if saying "asshole".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Twitch specifies this is conditional: you’re allowed to discuss the political movement of that name, but not “attack or demean another individual or group of people on the basis of their background or religious belief.”

Zionist is a political term, it has nothing to do with one’s background or religious belief.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're entirely right.

But see if the political view is only held by members or a certain religious group (even if not all members of said religion accept said political thought), it's easy to conflate it, so that you can ban anyone opposing said political thought based on "they're discriminating against me because of my religion".

Fuck twitch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except not all Zionists are Jews, many are Christian.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Well, I guess, but... you could argue that Zionists are mostly seen to be purely Jewish due to the nature of the movement.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

which is hard to still call Zionist if they don't support any further expansion and any offensive military action.

Your 'if' is doing a lot of heavy lifting. And is fucking hilarious given they keep expanding and pushing people out of their decades old homes.

Funny how that part seems to be ignored in defense of zionists....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I guess my pessimistic lens is a little strong and I generally don't trust large companies to act in good faith. So maybe I'm over scrutinizing here and being a bit of a curmudgeon.

I think your perspective is fair, and it's likely this is akin to a high school faculty dealing with some random word or idea becoming a meme of sorts and causing problems. So they have to write some new rule that sounds ridiculous or weird.

It sucks there's so much racism and bigotry driving forces in the world that it's hard to not be dubious of everything. You always kinda wonder about the actual motivation behind things like this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Zionists identify themselves as zionists. How's that a slur?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I identify myself as a homosexual.

I've heard homo being used in a derogatory way as an insult. That usage should not be tolerated.

Retarded is just a medical term, yet you can use it as an insult as well.

That is what this "specification of conditional" aims at. It's fine to use the word in a descriptive way, you're just not allowed to go around angrily calling people "fucking zionist"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They use the word starting with F not the word homosexual