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Japan ranks 92nd in English proficiency, lowest ever: survey (mainichi.jp)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Japan’s English proficiency ranking dropped to 92nd out of 116 countries, the lowest ever recorded.

The decline is attributed to stagnant English proficiency among young people, particularly due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Netherlands ranked first, followed by European countries, while the Philippines and Malaysia ranked 22nd and 26th, respectively.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pitch accent isn't a tone system, also ん can he pronounced in way too many ways.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

also ん can he pronounced in way too many ways

If English speakers¹ can deal with oo being pronounced at least six different ways (moon, book, door, blood, cooperation, brooch) they should be able to deal with this...

1— Disclaimer: as a non native speaker, I not only can't deal with it, but at this point have absolutely no intention to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean according to Wikipedia,

Some scholars have claimed that the term "pitch accent" is not coherently defined and that pitch-accent languages are just a sub-category of tonal languages in general.

And yeah ん is messed up but aren't three of these the same sound? I'd say it's more five different pronunciations rather than seven, which still a lot but would match with my understanding of it as English+2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think he titled it 7 because he explicitly presents 7 different cases. I'm not sure what you mean by saying three are the same though? Two are obviously exactly the same. Personally, I would only consider it three different "things":

A uvular nasal at the end of an utterance.
The nasalization of a following consonant when that consonant has the tongue contacting the roof of the mouth.
The nasalization of a preceeding vowel when the following phoneme has the tongue not making contact.

I think it's fair to even say that it's almost exactly one thing: an instruction to let air out of your nose whilst producing the surrounding phonemes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I meant the same in terms of the actual sound that comes out.