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The variant is called EG.5 and is a descendant of Omicron.

The Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that EG.5 accounted for roughly 17.3 per cent β€” or one in six β€” of new COVID-19 cases in the U.S. in the past two weeks.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Nah, the real danger is the result of repeated cumulative reinfection damage from a still-poorly-understood virus that causes more and more damage to the vascular system and every organ connected to it. Long Covid is only beginning to be recognized for the mass disabling event it is, and the response of governments from the municpal all the way to the federal levels have been to let it rip, stop testing, shut down tracking sites, repeal mask mandates, and declare victory. Literally doing the thing they rightly mocked Trump for suggesting.

Now over a million people have died in the US alone, and our government has decided to force everyone back to work to sustain commercial real estate profits, and in the process condemned us all to a lifetime of body-destroying reinfections by a virus who's key traits are infectiousness and rapid evolution.

None of this had to happen. We could have had a real quarantine, just a month or two back in 2019, but that would require making slightly less money for a brief period of time, so instead we get to live in eternal plague world. The hobbling of any effective covid response by our ruling class in favor of more lucrative half-measures and non-measures is beyond a humanitarian disaster, it's a crime of unprecedented scale.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the beginning of the pandemic someone very correctly predicted that America was going to do the plague the same way we did Vietnam: enthusiastically for a little bit, then once we realize how expensive it is we were gonna give up, run away and loudly declare victory.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny, I was just going to mention Vietnam; they did the lockdown as it should have been. Closed borders, no gatherings, the whole shebang. And wouldn't you know it; economic damage from the pandemic was extremely minimal because of all the people (read: workers, read: customers) that didn't needlessly die or were permanently disabled.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the case with Cuba as well. They did the damn thing right and ended up in a position where they were exporting doctors and techniques to the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yup. Cuba even sent personal to Canada to help us out, all because we've imported and adopted the American denier mindset. :(

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have said it very well.

In Australia even our absolute harshest lockdowns made allowances for millions of "essential" industries.

Unless you owned a business installing styrofoam nuns, you kept going to work in some capacity.

We're an island for fuck's sake! We could have stopped this thing in it's tracks. But no, the flights must keep arriving. Business must business.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We could have stopped this thing in [its] tracks.

You'll correct me for sure, but I remember Aus was banking on its internal vaccine and didn't want to lock down in vain while the vaccine was imminent; only when that vaccine failed to be effective and on time did they have to start Plan B, and that put everyone way behind.

(I'm paraphrasing my nephew who lives there, so it's second-hand at best).

But they seemed to start out with a fine, conservative fuck-the-plebes plan, at least.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's pretty much the gist of it. We also had a huge in-fighting between state governments and a stubborn refusal to work together or coordinate properly that led to some really bad outcomes.

Almost the entire time this was compounded by flight after flight of VIPs arriving in Australia for 'diplomatic' purposes, or of course to play sportsball. We barely even stopped normal tourist flights either, yet our own expats were not allowed to fly home until months later. None of it made any sense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53776285

This incident in itself made me highly suspicious of our governments competence and motivations. This was one of our major seeding incident here. Under no circumstances should this have been allowed to happen, yet this is just one of a long string of borderline malicious decisions by those in charge. We all forget too quickly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dayjob Orchestra fan right there!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Me too. Was driving tow truck then. No passengers allowed and driving was a gd dream come true ... :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Everything is beyond fucked man, I know, you're probably preaching to the choir. Theres no reload, no save, no do over. Find happiness the best you can and pray you die before we turn from sideways to upside down.

That's my plan at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

None of this had to happen. We could have had a real quarantine, just a month or two back in 2019, but that would require making slightly less money for a brief period of time, so instead we get to live in eternal plague world.

Even if you could have gotten an entire country to agree that this was a good idea and pull it off, you still have other countries to worry about. Stopping it in one country wouldn't have stopped it anywhere else.

Now, what I do agree with is that the response could've been a lot better, and many lives would've been saved as a result. But completely defeating COVID was always a fantasy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

None of this had to happen. We could have had a real quarantine, just a month or two back in 2019, but that would require making slightly less money for a brief period of time, so instead we get to live in eternal plague world. The hobbling of any effective covid response by our ruling class in favor of more lucrative half-measures and non-measures is beyond a humanitarian disaster, it's a crime of unprecedented scale.

Yes it did. If all countries did this around the world many people would have starved to death. It's simply not ethical. Without eliminating it everywhere it would spread eventually - just look at Australia.

You can't even enforce a total lockdown in western countries without excluding "key workers" that would allow the virus to spread anyway.

Nothing you have suggested would work in the real world. The only solution to prevent this is new medicines and prophylactics. We have developed some of these in the form of antivirals but they are not used enough to stop the spread.

We already enjoy a level of health unknown to people 100 years ago even with COVID-19. There will always be new diseases and this is the nature of evolution unfortunately. Previous generations had to accept this, now we have to as well. I hate to say it but probably our current level of health and healthcare isn't sustainable without further advances thanks to antibiotic and antiviral resistance. We will need to change our approach going forward using things like bacteriophages, increased sanitation, healthier life styles, less cattle antibiotics, and new treatments to keep up.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

the result of repeated cumulative reinfection damage from a still-poorly-understood virus that causes more and more damage to the vascular system and every organ connected to it

When I ask actual doctors, they disagree. Then we laugh about how anti-vax karen-convoy it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

anyone with significant experience (even just as a patient) in the medical system can tell you doctors are not infallible. most medical professionals i've encountered in my area don't even mask anymore and haven't for about a year and some change now. of the ones that do, most are still just wearing surgical masks (useless)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

surgical masks (useless)

This isn't entirely true though. Yes they are far from perfect and yes they are worse than better masks, but they are still better than nothing and do actually reduce transmission.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

you're correct, i was being a touch hyperbolic. iirc it's like 23-27% effective or some shit, maybe in the 30s (it's been a while)

that said, a solid 70% of the doctors i see masking have it either under their nose or on their chin so shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Are these the same doctors who insist on taking a wait and see approach to Paxlovid? If so, I'm not sure they should even be allowed to call themselves doctors.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The idea that reinfections would be benign was inspired by politics and vibes. There's plenty of evidence that reinfections are bad. It's a virus that can damage all our organs, brain included, cause micro clots, vascular damage, and harm the immune system itself by trashing our t-cells, and it's a virus we can catch multiple times a year and is mutating so rapidly we are having trouble knowing what to target when we develop yearly vaccines.

It's kind of a problem if reinfections are bad for us when we are counting on perpetual infections to "build our immunity".

US dept. of Health and Human Services https://twitter.com/HHSGov/status/1659589815887712256

New Zealand government covid updates https://nitter.kavin.rocks/covid19nz/status/1670943608428539905#m

Another study showing cumulative risk upon reinfection https://nitter.kavin.rocks/i/status/1688769749868490752