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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Australian animals.

Americans are the absolute worst at it and it's just so stupid. Yes we have poisonous snakes and spiders, so does America.

We have more of them than America, yes.

You know what we don't have? Large predators. You can go walking in the bush in Australia and you might see one of the most dangerous snakes in the world. You know what you do? You don't fuck with it and continue on with your business.

You're walking in America and oh, you've just stumbled across one of the multiple species of bears, coyotes, wolves, cougars etc. Animals that may chase you down and maul you. It's not even a competition.

And you, as an American, might say 'oh but you pretty much never see them'. Yeah same with dangerous snakes etc in Australia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America doesn't have Gympie Gympie trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That is true, again, very specific area, I've never seen one in near 4 decades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

100%, I’m much more afraid of aggressive roos or feral animals than snakes or spiders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You know what we don't have? Large predators

Crocodiles are pretty large, and so are great white sharks.

You know what's funny though? I just finished writing about how bears aren't scary, and then I came across your post saying American predators are more scary than Australian ones. Haha. I suppose it's all a matter of familiarity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Crocodiles are very large, but again, they are mostly in a pretty unpopulated region and again, they do not chase and attack, you just don't go swimming.

Sharks are not Australian. For many years I've also had Americans and Japanese alike saying 'oh Australia has so many sharks!'. It's the ocean, there are sharks everywhere.

It is all about familiarity, but with a snake it's literally 'don't touch it'. With a bear, you have to know which bear it is, best defence, carry a weapon etc. Not comparable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, crocodiles and alligators seem pretty easy to avoid, as long as you don't have to get into the water.

Most bears just run away long before people see them. I've spent half my life in the backcountry and high country, and I've only seen a bear 3 times in the wild, each time it was running away. Okay, 4 times if you count Yosemite, which I don't since those are basically domesticated bears. To be clear, I'm not arguing with you, just giving you more details on the predators we have here. They're more afraid of us than we are of them. I do carry bear spray in bear country though these days, just in case.

I've never seen a cougar. They won't be seen if they don't want to be seen.

Snakes are pretty much the same thing like you said, just leave it alone, but they're a lot less likely to run away. The real danger with snakes is startling one when scrambling over rocks. They'll just bite you out of self defense and then you're in for a real bad time. I've only ever happened across rattlesnakes 3 times though. They're very reclusive creatures. We killed the snake two out of the three times though, because both of those times the snake had set up shop on a path we frequently walked, and we couldn't risk startling it one day without seeing it, and ending up dead, or losing a limb, or whatever.

Spiders are the worst, because they'll crawl inside your shoes, gloves, sleeping bags, pants, or whatever, and bite you when you don't even know they're there. Thankfully we only have a few very dangerous spiders, and one of them is a web spider, so very easy to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For sure, I understand and agree with you. It's the same everywhere, most animals, even those that can easily kill you, want nothing to do with you.

I was just saying, the notion that Australia is some crazy dangerous land infested with animals trying to kill you is just nonsense.

Random story, I went to the US about 10 years ago and was in LA, driving around the mountains, just enjoying the area. I came up around a bend and saw a baby mountain lion running across the road and up a hill. I was so fucking excited, I hit the brakes, pulled over, got out of the car, took about 4-5 steps towards where it ran off and suddenly had the thought 'fuck.. Mum will be very close'. Got back in my car and left.

Anyway, I drove through about 2000 miles of the US, that was the only 'dangerous' animal encounter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Wow! What a special treat! I've seen a bobcat in the wild, but never a cougar. I'm pretty okay with not seeing them though, since they're usually planning on killing you if they let themselves be seen. Still, it would be neat to actually see one and walk away unscathed.

I saw a wolf once. It was just sitting in the middle of the road. We got a good look at it as we drove past and it's so very obvious that they are not dogs. The eyes held so much danger and wildness in them. It was very cool.