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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberalism enshrines capitalism so it's right of center.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh huh and what about the rest of liberalism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're talking about the social politics of liberalism? Typically people will use more of a compass to better describe the intersection between social and fiscal policies. Fiscal is the left to right, Liberty is the bottom to top, and some even add a Z axis for progressive vs regressive.

While there are different flavors, American liberalism is considered right of center on fiscal policy but less authoritarian on more personal freedoms than conservative views. Ie: both support big business, but liberals are more okay if you're LGBT+.

Excerpt from Wikipedia about classical liberalism: "In the context of American politics, "classical liberalism" may be described as "fiscally conservative" and "socially liberal".[55] Despite this, classical liberals tend to reject the right's higher tolerance for economic protectionism and the left's inclination for collective group rights due to classical liberalism's central principle of individualism.[56] Additionally, in the United States, classical liberalism is considered closely tied to, or synonymous with, American libertarianism."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hahaha sure.

I agree largely with the information you've presented but you're swerving to prove a point.

Liberalism as a whole umbrella term is absolutely left wing. It literally is like the basis of left wing anything. Fiscally it is only considered more right than it was because of the introduction of socalism really but broadly across the world and history no liberalism in all forms is left leaning even if it suggests some right leaning fiscal policies it also has left leaning fiscal policies, affordable healthcare, housing, the idea of people not being dirt poor or slaves to a system stems from liberalism in its heart, name and literally everything else liberalism is left wing. The most right leaning form of liberalism, neoliberalism is still domestically pretty left leaning.

You guys hangout too inside a box of leftness everything you see is right leaning

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Within your Overton window, liberalism is left wing. Compared to the gamut of political ideologies, it is not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

liberalism is literally what started the concept of left wing.

You're absolutely silly