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Honestly, I'm not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c'mon) is not okay.
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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- Post only about bans or other sanctions from mod(s).
- Provide the cause of the sanction (e.g. the text of the comment).
- Provide the reason given by the mods for the sanction.
- Don't use private communications to prove your point. We can't verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don't deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don't harass mods or brigade comms. Don't word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin' in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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Wasn't the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?
Why are people still on .world lmao
Because it's no big loss if we end up getting banned, so as another commenter said. Laziness
And unless mods are being massive weirdos by checking how we're behaving in the comment sections of other instance's communities, then it's even less likely we'll be banned anyway.
So for now, I do nothing.
And express my total non-sadness at this CEO's, and probably many other CEO's deaths.
I'm not for the death penalty, but they sure as hell deserve it.
The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can't move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy's design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.
I don't believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.
Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected] ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected]:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn't any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.
You can
Those are completely different communities, I'm talking about viewing and participating in the same community with different moderators/instances in charge. The examples you show are different communities, where it just so happens that one redirects to another because a moderation group decided to. It's not what I'm suggesting, taking the same comment pool and passing it off through the filter of a new instance/moderator group to moderate.
This solution still allows to address the LW centralization with the tools we have today.
Your solution requires rework of the Lemmy software that is probably not going to happen any time soon.
Except that it really wouldn't be a solution for OP's problem. It only works when the problem also isn't leading the moderation team.
In that case, organizing on [email protected] allows to replace a community lead by power tripping mods.
Last example: [email protected] being replaced by [email protected]
I'm pretty sure lemmy.world would not consider the way that moderator is acting "power-tripping", considering their stances.
Well OP did switch, indicated by the switched instance of their new account
Been thinking about this for about a week now. How does one go about switching instances?
For some reason I thought you could migrate your profile between instances. Oh well. Fuck world. I just kinda got plopped here because I use Sync mainly - ready to move now though.
In settings there's an import and export button. I will post a link or something here if I find one.
Edit: https://piefed.social/post/5291
Thanks for this!
Hmm, what does this do?
Export your instances list and blocklist. Then in your new account you can import them again.
Thanks!
You can just use the import/export settings feature in the account settings
There's a tool somewhere that lets you download your subscriptions then apply them to the new account, but no migration.
It's not a tool, it's a feature in the settings
Few reasons:
I joined when it was one of the smaller instances
Laziness
Currently looking to move
The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won't switch as much as necessary to affect real change.
The large user base, and a couple of communities who don't care about current events. But it's not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it's on?
I dont' know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I'd say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn't an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?
mods on politcs and news are neo lib acolytes, they mode for the ruling class while pretending to be one of us lol
It's a dumb argument because unless you're willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
Moving on isn't as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.
The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can't start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.
Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are
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The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can't be as easily replaced or bypassed. So "Just move to another server" doesn't work unless you're encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who's actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.
Inertia