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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/19448624

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All the ways people can be not cis

(Not really, there's too many to list in a single post)

Transgender:
When one's assigned gender at birth is different from one's actual gender.

Ipsogender:
Intersex people who identify as their assigned gender at birth, but do not feel the term "cisgender" applies to them.

Ultergender:
Intersex people who identify as a gender other than their assigned gender at birth, but do not feel the term "transgender" describes them due to being intersex. A "trans intersex" person.

Cisn't:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't cisgender.

Transn't:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't transgender.

Isogender:
When you're not cis, but you don't identify as trans.

Absgender:
Someone beyond, between or removed from cis/trans dichotomy.

Centrgender:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't cisgender or transgender.

Utrinquegender:
Someone who has aspects of both trans and cis experiences.

Adgender:
When someone moves towards a particular gender expression. Includes trans people as well as people who are not trans but still transition.

Demicisgender:
Identifying partially as your assigned gender/sex at birth, and partially not.

Demitransgender:
Identifying partially, but not completely as transgender.

As shown here, it's definately not a binary Even though some people think it is.


I made this because I wanted to educate people on the diversity of gender modalities and show that it's way more complicated than saying not-cis = trans like people often say. There's way more nuance to it.

Does anyone here think they may relate to any of these other labels? I relate and identify with Isogender personally.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Blahaj.zone admin note - I'm leaving your post rather than removing it, so that my reply expanding on why your position is an issue has context. Please note, this is not a discussion or a debate. Any further gatekeeping of other folks identity will be removed, as per our instance policies

What you're describing is still gatekeeping. Not everyone experiences asexuality the way you do, and you are guilty of doing the very thing you're claiming others are doing to you.

There are terms that describe what you're talking about that have space in the ace community. Sex repulsed, sex positive, sex indifferent all describe different experiences of asexuality, and in ace communities or broader queer communities, you can quite easily say that you're looking to connect/share experiences with other sex repulsed/indifferent ace folk, and no one is going to have an issue with it.

It becomes an issue when you say or imply that ace folk who don't share your experiences aren't really ace, or claim that they're invading your space, as if you have more right to it than them. At that point you're gatekeeping, and trying to deny them access to a space with folk who share their experiences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve already left any asexual spaces because of how uncomfortably sexual they’d become, and how no one could share an experience of not being sexual without constant reminders of how sex is pretty awesome actually.

A safe space isn’t exactly safe when you’re only kept around to be kicked down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Your argument is reminiscent of the trans people who claim that non-op trans women being proud of who they are is invalidating to them because they have genital dysphoria. That they believe non-ops are hurting the community.

Demisexual people and graysexual people are not hurting the Ace community. I can understand your feelings as a more sex-repulsed person myself but that's not a valid excuse to invalidate their experiences or say they are hurting the community. That stance is extremely bigoted, and goes against everything we value as a community.