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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tariffs are paid by consumers, you do the math...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've seen a post where somebody was surprised that their company would not give bonus this year as they'll have to pay tariffs on their materials from abroad.

It's this kind of side effects I'm interested in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's kind of simple, say you tarrif chinese electric cars because they are cheaper than USA made ones. Good right?

No, because now american EV makers doesn't need to compete as much, and you have to pay your Chinese EV plus tarrifs, or go with the USA made one, who was more expensive and/or worse from the beginning.

A thing here is obviously that in the EV example, the Chinese poured money into their EV market lowering prices, thus the tarrifs, right?

Well you can see it that without tarrifs now you can buy a cheap EV sponsored by China & their money.

Someone else might say that tarrifs helps american EV makers (debatable IMO), but either way it's always the consumer who pays the tarrifs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Won't the American ev get more expensive anyway, because we source a lot of our battery materials from China?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That is the thing capitalism, they'll find something else to make it cheaper (child labour if they can push the laws) and sodium batteries seems particularly promising.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So are raises in minimum wage and raising ordinary taxes for big businesses. Either way it maths out where we do the collective lifting