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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

to paraphrase an old Polish quote, (on dealing with Russians) "The Rubble is preferable to Russian Dominion"

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Maybe it's just me, but life in Ukraine didn't look all that different from life in Russia before the invasion.

Both nations are far behind the civilized world when it comes to social issues. Corruption was cited as a major reason for denying Ukraine entrance into NATO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Maybe it’s just me, but life in Ukraine didn’t look all that different from life in Russia before the invasion.

You mean apart from all the dead Ukrainians and the ethnic cleansing and the kidnapped children and such?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

the difference beforehand was that prior to the shooting (big shooting at least). One was a flawed democracy that was trying to improve, and trying to do to itself what Poland did to itself after 20-30 years in NATO and EU.

the other was an authoritarian mob state. going from one to the other, was evidently worth fighting to the death over, I am inclined to agree.