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Honestly, I'm here for it. The biphobic stuff I would hear from women kept me in the closet for a long time

https://xcancel.com/guywhoiswoke/status/1871313546266759389

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

in accordance with the wise adage "polling is bullshit," i'm gonna have to fact check this one.

The source is a Glamour magazine article. The "study" was conducted by Glamour itself. Almost no information about methodology is shared, including how respondents were located and contacted, what their demographics were, or what the actual questions being responded to were. All we are told is that they polled "1,015 women ages 18 to 44 about their own sexual identities and experiences." Needless to say, this is not a representative sample, and I strongly suspect these were Glamour readers responding to an online poll.

I don't doubt that biphobia is widespread, but I want harder evidence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost no information about methodology is shared

why the fuck is "methodology" a word? it sounds like gibberish. it sounds like something that'd be in a rick and morty skit
it serves no purpose and makes you say 3 extra syllables over just "methods"

god i hate crackers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

i like syllables

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

I mentioned the statistics here are dubious elsewhere in the thread, but anecdotally it definitely seems like the case

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Are there better surveys out there?