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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I had to file a $4000 protective order against a former friend of mine when I came out bi after rejecting her twice. I was in the closet for over 20 years in the American South and thought it would be finally safe enough to come out earlier this year after living in the PNW for a couple of years. Guess not.

She was sending me shit in the mail, going around calling me a predator. She kept trying to find ways to contact me; going as far as a Google photos comment section she had a link to. I gained 30 lbs from stress. I leave the country next month, thank fucking God. I'm done.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They make you pay money to get a restraining order?? Edit: Oh I guess that was lawyer's fees. Still ridiculous.

I'm guessing she asked if you rejected her because you're gay, at which point you came out as bi? How did she think that made you a predator? That's fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, that is the legal fee. I went lawyer shopping for a day and I was getting quotes from $4,000 to $6,000. What's even more fucked is I have a friend who got a DUI, and his quotes were $3,000 to $4,500.

It's cheaper to fight a DUI than to put a legal mechanism in place meant to protect you from domestic violence.

I'm guessing she asked if you rejected her because you're gay, at which point you came out as bi?

I came out at a new years eve party with a really hot dude. It was amazing and I miss it powercry-1 . It was the last night I truly felt attractive.

Her first boyfriend broke up with her coming out as gay, and her fiancé cancelled their wedding after he came out as trans. She uhhh...has a type. lol. And she had an axe to grind. She lost her shit when I came out.

How did she think that made you a predator?

She just wanted to hurt me and went around saying that. We went to school together and our cohort had some conservatives and she leveraged the "the gays are groomers and predators" nonsense to try to hurt my reputation. Also made false accusations I harassed her as well. If you have seen Baby Reindeer, she is Martha.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was the lawyer necessary because she challenged the restraining order? Or was it to file one in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It was a package deal; filing then fighting it for a flat fee.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We were super close friends. I felt like I could actually open up to her and I guess I sent mixed signals or something. Never kissed her or fucked her once.

I've had a pretty hard life and I just, I just want out lol. I leave the country mid January to Europe. I'll be over for at least 3 years but want to be there as long as I can. I loved living there as a kid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I'm not coming out. People are just evil

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah I'm back in after all this.