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Have you ever had any of your personal spaces being rummaged/searched through? How did you feel about it (emotionally)? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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aka: Burglary of your home, Car break-in, Your bedroom getting searched by someone (Parents/Roomates/Housemates/ or even Burglars), Your Backpack, Personal Electronics/Phone/Computer/etc getting searched, etc. (Including any seaches by law enforcrment / security)

Basically, anything that can be considered "personal space".

Why I ask?

Well... My parent's car has signs of being searched through last night, I think they forgot to close the windows all the way, and some random thief got in and looking for valuables, nothing of value wa taken, but stuff were all over the car, now I hate the idea of getting into that car again (someone might've slept inside the car, blegh 😖). That car feels so "tainted" now.

Like this cant be only my feeling right? Like, you just feel disgusted after someone touch your things against your will (especially if they are strangers).

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Had a landlord that I discovered had been in my apartment without letting me know. Luckily, tenants have quite good legal protections where I'm from. Among other things, we can have the lock changed by a locksmith and bill the landlord for it if they've done just that. So I sent them an email with the contact info for a local locksmith, along with the legal text saying I could do just that, and let them know they had burned through any goodwill with their first infraction (which I documented). They apologised and didn't do it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol that landlord is an idiot. If they had a more aggressive tenant, the tenants could've just claim they are missing items and blame the landlord for it, or if they are at home at the time, even use lethal force and claim self defence (and probably gotten off any charges).

What a fucking idiot, the landlord is lucky someone didn't mistake them for a burglar/home invader.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Probably depends on country, but where I'm from, you can't use lethal force unless there's danger to "life or health", that is, you can't use lethal force against a home invader unless it's absolutely necessary.

Besides, the most lethal weapon in most peoples homes are the fire extinguisher and kitchen knives.

To be frank: You would never get away with killing a landlord that locked themselves into your apartment while you were home, unless they tried to harm you in some way. Not a burglar either for that matter.

Disclaimer: Obviously, if you confront a burglar, and it develops to a violent confrontation, lethal force can be justified. However, you will be hard pressed on whether you had the option to remove yourself from the situation before needing to resort to lethal force.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, I'm in the USA, and people here can just willy-nilly shoot people, and you'd get away with it most of the time. (unless the person you shot is a cop, in which case you're fucked, even if you genuinely thought they were a home invader)

Edit: Well it also depends on if the landlord was an individual "mom&pop" landlord, or someone with like 100 units. If its one of the "richer" landlords, I could see there being more investigations into the shooting. A shooting of those "poorer" landlords would just get swept under the rug. But I don't know why someone with 100+ units would be managing properties by themselves, so the tenant in this hypothetical situation would almost be guaranteed to walk free, since the landlord would almost be guaranteed to be not "rich enough" to warrant the attention of the authorities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

In California we follow our version of castle doctrine:

198.5. Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant or substantial physical injury.

Now, you can do what you need to do to protect yourself, but then you get to explain to the cops and possibly a judge what happened, and you better hope they agree with you. It's also important to note that this doesn't extend to someone intruding on your exterior property, just someone who breaks into your house, and you do have to have reason to believe they will harm you or your family.