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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't giving you a tough independent American rhetoric, I was explaining how American government works and you took it as something else.

Federalism is baked into how the USA governs itself. I can't explain disaster response without noting who the lead government agency is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't giving you a tough independent American rhetoric

I was explaining how American government works

Yeah it works through tough independent rhetoric as domestic policy as an excuse to neglect and fuck over people with a thin veneer of that neglect being for their own good.

Federalism is baked into how the USA governs itself.

That's the fancy word for the alienated independence ideology that drives the incompetent and neglectful system, yeah sure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It you know better, how do you make the federal government the lead agency in responding to natural disasters?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

debatebro-r Give a detailed and working governmental policy platform in a single response post and do it in response to your presumptions which you are presenting as a default position which does not require the same homework assignment. debatebro-l

EDIT: Here's a freebie, just for you and your reddit-logo style debatebro bullshit: China's response is clearly better than what's going on in Maui.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China's response is clearly better than what's going on in Maui.

In this one case, but there is also the 90 tonnes of steel AI Weiwei straightened after the 2008 Sichuan Earthquake.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In this one case, but there is also the 90 tonnes of steel AI Weiwei straightened after the 2008 Sichuan Earthquake.

In this one case

But your own this one case makes Burgerland superior to the See See Pee because that's different! congratulations

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never said better.

So you were doing some exhaustive and tiresome devil's advocate nonsense and/or are trying to dial back your ridiculously bad original take where you presented a strong centralized government response as some sort of scary nanny state that only the weak yearn for, and that you have a knee-jerk reaction about. ok

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said a strong centralized government was bad, just that it wouldn't be tolerated in the current political framework.

You interpreted that as being bad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said

You're waffling and playing sophistic games that are not unlike billdawg and your political ideology seems to come from the same source.

Checks out.

You interpreted that as being bad.

nicholson-yes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe you just want someone to argue with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's rich coming from you, especially after your amerikkka-clap flag-humping session that started with this:

Or maybe you want a strongman who will protect you until they don't.

The crumbling and neglected infrastructure and decaying social institutions of Freedomland are cool and good and no worse than the evil See See Pee because something something federalism and how that's totally working out great promise guys for real guys morshupls

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was mentioning it in the context of the USA. I've been bringing up Trump as an example of a person in charge of the federal government who didn't respond to requests from states for aid. During COVID, the federal government denied assistance to states that were politically against Trump. Putting all disaster response in the hands of the federal government could cause a similar case to happen in the future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putting all disaster response in the hands of the federal government could cause a similar case to happen in the future.

Claiming that the federal/central government should by default rely, especially in the context of the crumbling and eroding infrastructural and social conditions of the United States, on alienated and isolated first responses from counties or townships or whatever is left in impoverished parts of the country is idealistic nonsense that ignores the actual conditions of those places.

And Maui isn't even nearly one of the most impoverished areas and look how badly that went.