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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah man, I feel sorry for the people who will have to live under the fucking Taliban, but we've spent way too much time, money and blood on Afghanistan already.

We shouldn't have been there in the first place, but for them to just instantly roll over to the Taliban... Just compare it to Ukraine, where they are fighting for their lives and freedom against a much more powerful enemy.

It's long past time for Afghanistan to deal with their own problems.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, like what do they expect? Another foreign military intervention?

That will not happen again for decades at best. Longer if all the developed nations really learn from America's mistake this time.

Sure, we can sanction them, but any aid just gets intercepted, so that's out. It sucks so many Afghans are suffering under the system, but it's the system they let happen. Did they want to be an occupied country forever? Was this a fight America was expected to wage indefinitely? Twenty years was already too long.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They should have trained the Afghani women who have an actual reason to fight against the Taliban, instead of the lazy men who instantly capitulated.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I never thought about this at the time. It was all just shocking and frankly pathetic. Didn't realize the men had the least at stake, while women had the most, but were not allowed to join the fight. Many men probably didn't care or even resented the "changes". (Women's rights. Sounds familiar. MAGA?) Unwilling to put up any kind of fight for that kind of future for their partners and daughters.

I wonder what most Afghan women think of these men now. And if joining the military was ever a realistic possibility, and could have changed the result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Kipling has some lines about what happens when you give Afghan women knives

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tbf Afghanistan defeated a much stronger Russia back in the 80s.

With less help than Ukraine gets.

Edit: so the downvotes are just ignorant of history or are they trying to rewrite it to suit their own agendas? Regardless, not a good sign for the future.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not the graveyard of empires because it's farmland.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf Afghanistan defeated a much stronger Russia back in the 80s.

Those were pretty much the Taliban though. No one doubts the will to fight of the Taliban.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well the Taliban took over the pieces after the U.S. abandoned the Mujhaideen.

Funny how history repeats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The downvotes are probably because you seem to 'ignore' the US role in arming the Taliban.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

See below. This was addressed yesterday.