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[–] Ubermeisters 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Is that the engineers fault? Or is that the people who are supposed to check for usability after the engineer is done designing the functional aspects? Because it's not usually an engineer's job to do this...

Basic product testing is the foundation of manufacturing, an error like this doesn't get all the way through production and it still be just the engineers fault.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They probably reused a PCB from another model that used a paperclip hole reset. They duplicated the design, sent it for testing, and came back with "everything is great, but make the reset a push button before you ship it." Engineering probably said "ok. But it will need to go back for usability testing" and sales said "fuck that, send it"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Or another possibility, after proto and lots of testing: "we need to move test button a couple of cm to the right, away from the corner. No further tests needed"

[–] Ubermeisters 3 points 1 year ago

That seems highly plausible to me

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it is the engineers fault, but even then there should have been multiple people that should have caught such an issue along the way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an engineer, I agree.

You cannot be a layer of security if your attitude is, "this is someone else's problem".

The swiss cheese model of security is what I go by. Yes, no one is perfect, but that's precisely why every single person needs to actually give a damn. (and why people should be paid enough to care) The more layers of protection from catastrophe, the better.

Giving in because others are involved is literally Bystander Effect-ing your job effectiveness. Only idiots should be OK with, "this is someone else's fault."

No, this is also other peoples' fault, but make no mistake: the engineer is on that list.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Probably both, but you're right, there's definitely a qa problem here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's very strange engineer, if he doesn't aware of RJ45 connector form-factors.

[–] Ubermeisters 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey I'm not absolving the engineer for not doing basic interference checks but I'm saying it's also somebody else's job I'm sure, Cisco's not a small company.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the point of mentioning that it's someone else job too?

[–] Ubermeisters 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the point of putting it all on the engineer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who's putting it all on the engineer?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It literally says "at least you're not the Cisco design engineer..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And? It showcases engineer fault, but how do it shift all blame to him?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds exactly like something an engineer would say.

[–] Ubermeisters 3 points 1 year ago

Engineer-adjacent haha