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Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook's imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy.

Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion.

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958

Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I have no desire to interact with Facebook via Lemmy. Fuck that idea. And I think it's shady that there's Mastodon admins having secret meetings with Fuckerberg and his cronies and keeping the details secret. I think it's even worse to see Mastodon servers defederating with other servers just because their admins are critical of Meta. I feel bad for all the users who fled to Mastodon just to get away from Big Corporate Social Media just to be shushed and have their concerns handwaved by their Admin who seems bizarrely starstruck. It all leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's probably a reasonable explanation for this. The entire idea of Mastodon was built around getting away from companies like Meta. The admins arent going to just do a 180 on that.

It's more likely that Meta wants to do a similar thing as Truth Social and they are doing some consultation work. It would be good money and I don't blame them for taking it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I hope this is the case and they don't try to federate

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that I think about it, Zuck does seem to have that effect on people. Does he actually have a mind-washing beam?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It‘s called money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To give them the benefit of the doubt, having to sign an NDA doesn't mean they actually get into bed with Meta.

If you catch me completely off-guard, or for example 10 minutes ago when I started reading the thread, I definitely would give a hot-headed "hell no, fuck you Fuckerberg" response to any approach from Meta, but now that I've had the time to calmly think and see other people's responses I have a better idea (which follows the benefit of the doubt train of though I mentioned).

Sure, the NDA ties your hands, but only until Meta makes the stuff they are scheming public. If federation is part of it, once they federate it would become public knowledge anyway. I'll admit it's not a large group of people who would be signing the NDA and sitting down with Meta, but that group of people now has advanced warning of anything Meta is planning and they can begin to counter plan, which is better than being caught totally off guard when Fuckerberg exposes himself.

If they do lie in bed (and federate) with Meta rather than use it as an opportunity to gain Intel on Meta's horrid schemes, then sure, they will have chosen that side. If they just take Meta's money and ultimately it helps the fediverse, or just use it to gain Intel, then no harm, no foul?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn’t agree more!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuckerberg

To have a name so stupid, that changing it to Fuckerberg doesn't really make it much worse. LOL