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[–] [email protected] 224 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Never do anything on work machines/networks you don't want to have to explain to hr/legal.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sr. Systems Admin here. IT does not give 2 shits about what you browse UNLESS something is reported or something trips our Alerts (has to be something major like Child Porn).

We don't sit there and actively monitor and watch what you are browsing. We investigate when something is reported by a worker or an Alert/Filter gets tripped

HR also doesn't know unless we tell them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Second. I once had a staff member come to me all embarrassed because someone sent a dick pick via some dating app while they was on our corporate wifi. I was like, "I promise we don't care".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Https is no match for work monitoring: pre-installed software, certs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pre installed certs would be a huge vulnerability

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Uh no? Most organizations use preinstaed certs. They are usually baked into the Windows image for deployment... They are what allow a corporate device to connect to WiFi networks without a password.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All of the “privacy experts” in this sub wouldn’t know a certificate if it bit them in the ass. Most don’t even know of VPNs outside of the “privacy” services hawked by YouTubers.

Certificates can be used to authenticate machines to wired or wireless. This is true. They are much easier to maintain at scale than pre-shared key, especially when you run an internal CA and can issue or revoke them easily/automatically, and when you run a domain and can push out additional trusted root CAs to endpoints.

And if you have either an internal CA or a domain (ideally both), it’s very simple to have your firewall or web filter perform man-in-the-middle “attacks”. Most everything nowadays can handle TLS1.2 and many are starting to support TLS1.3. They essentially break open the traffic for inspection and re-sign it with a certificate that your system trusts so there is no error to the user. Some sites and apps have a hard time with this because of HSTS and pinning, but that’s a bit of a tangent.

I say “attacks” in quotes because they own the hardware and they own the time of the person using it.

Anyways, don’t do anything on a work computer you wouldn’t want your boss to know about. We usually aren’t actively watching the traffic, but some things are hard to ignore, and sometimes the CEO just wants to know who else has a diaper fetish for “official reasons”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

RADIUS doesn't depend on preinstalled certs. But I wouldn't use Windows anwyay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure what you're saying? Those certs log to somewhere and in my experience HR is nowhere near technically literate enough to monitor and track that stuff.

Usually a manager asks a sysadmin to watch someone's stuff, then the sysadmin and manager tell HR what they find.

We had a contractor spending 90% of his day on reddit who got fired. Hr wouldn't have been able to pull this info since they don't have access to the system that tracks it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That only applies to work devices. If you're using your personal device, they would be able to see traffic to/from a dating website but not the actual content.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on the company size and the people above IT. Sometimes the boss is a chode and demands everyone be supervised like children constantly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's still inline with what they said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but the it's a good rule anyway, for some of the same reasons as the "Don't put it in an email if you wouldn't want it read aloud in a deposition" rule.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also do some really weird things that are innocuous so the HR lady looks at you weird from now on.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Everyone could use that reminder