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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you get placed on a PIP (Performance Improvement Plan), it's better to resign and look for another job than to fight the process.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't resign, make thos assholes pay unemployment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mine was UK specific. For America, it may be wiser to get booted out.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you could join a union and learn about your rights.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What rights?

If you've worked for somewhere less than two years, they can pretty much fire you for whatever reason they want, as long as it doesn't discriminate against a protected characteristic (i.e. gender, disability, sexual orientation.)

Brits had their rights to take cases to an employment tribunal eroded by the Tories.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You still have rights. Everyone should have a contract by law. Joining a union will get you advice on those rights. Your negative attitude is a primary cause that the Tories have gotten away with so much.

I agree the Tories have eroded rights past the point of reason, and even those right we have are more difficult to defend. P and O being a case in point. The Tories even kept them (P and O) in line for a ยฃ300m contract after this. That does not mean we should not defend those rights. Being complacent is a terrible route to just meander into.

Full fact shows the average wages dropped by ยฃ20 per week in 2018 from 2008. We have had 3 more years since then and now it is very obvious that it is a lot worse. The young and the poorest feeling it the most. A union sub is ยฃ10 per month on average. If everyone was in a union then the whole country's contracted labour force would be ยฃ30 per month better off. Not being in a union is a false economy.

If nothing else please make sure you vote when we get the chance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can just lie, too, and it's on you to prove that they fired you over a protected characteristic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

And don't take it personal, they were probably making quota.