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The tweet translated:

Today is the anniversary of the massacre of students and workers who fought for freedom, rights and democracy in China, but were suppressed with violence and repression. China's repression of dissidents unfortunately continues in high gear.

This dude is the new leader for "Enhedslisten"(Unity List), the only "socialist"(They have recently been pro NATO until an alternative arises) party with enough mandates to receive government positions, they are fairly popular.

Denmark is so cucked.

The tweet: https://twitter.com/pelledragsted/status/1665355639307096064

News article about him becoming "ordfører" for Enhedslisten: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/live-enhedslisten-praesenterer-ny-politisk-ordfoerer (Danish)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's very difficult to talk about this because, as you can see, we are not merely disagreeing on one event, we are portraying two wildly different and mutually exclusive narratives of a country of 1+ billion people (and at a certain point every single socialist country in human history). It is simply insufficient to talk only of T Square because of how linked such things as Xinjiang or Hong Kong are. A discussion of American color revolutions and similar attempts at sabotage could span hours.

So much contextual information is necessary to even begin to entertain this narrative, which to someone like you will be tantamount to entertaining Holocaust Denialism or similarly sickly things.

For example, do you know that well into the 90s of % of Chinese people trust the CPC at a federal level, and believe their country is a healthy democracy? As someone who has seen the CPC readily shift very fundamental policies to the whims of the Chinese people for generations, I am inclined to agree.

So, does the vast majority of Chinese people love the Communist Party because they are all held at gunpoint and fear being disappeared and harvested for organs or fed to dogs or whatever? Or do they love them because they genuinely have done a great job advocating for them and improving their livelihoods? This is where the narratives cannot gently coexist. We are talking about two radically different Chinas.

China has raised 800+ million people out of poverty. They are the only major country doing major green energy reforms. They arrest and even execute billionaires for crimes against the working class. They have the fastest growing middle class and international vacationing class in the world. All of this and the democratic poll are all reluctantly confirmed by hostile Western NGOs who struggle to find a way to take such obvious victories and spin them negatively...we have a joke here amongst us tankies, goes sort of like, "China cured cancer and distributed freely to all its citizens, but AT WHAT COST?"

We have truly been thoroughly lied to about socialist countries, by the greatest enemies of socialism to exist. China didn't praise Nazis and protect them from Nuremberg to hire them, USA did. China didn't destroy every people's movement of the 20th century they could, USA did. So why are we trusting the inheritors of the Nazi Empire on what is good or real socialism or not?