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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I sincerely can’t figure out how to use Amazon anymore and I’m very tech literate. Top that off with their labor practices literally being criminal and you have a spicy pizza pie.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It takes a bit of effort to avoid amazon, and it does cost a bit more in money and convenience, but it is possible to not buy from them.

(It's virtually impossible not to use their web services though unless you are a member of an uncontacted tribe in the, you guessed it, Amazon jungle).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I like when you pay extra to avoid them, and the other site just orders from Amazon anyway and has it shipped to you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It takes a bit of effort to avoid amazon, and it does cost a bit more in money and convenience, but it is possible to not buy from them.

Ha, here in Austria the government has effectively made it impossible for small vendors to sell their stuff. Amazon is pretty much all that's left.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What did the government do to cause that?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a new packaging law. Every non-Austrian merchant who wants to ship goods to Austria has to have a local notary acting as a representative who has to register the packaging used for shipments with the local authorities and is personally held liable for this. There are local notaries that offer this service for foreign merchants for about €800 per year. However, Austria is such a small market that this most likely eats up all of the revenue from Austrian customers for small merchants, so most just stopped shipping to the country. Of course, large merchants like Amazon easily can handle that fee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would go against the EU rules about Free Movement of people and goods (because it treats sellers from other countries differently from austrian sellers).

Maybe it only applies to sellers from outside the EU?!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It also affects merchants from inside the EU. People here are pretty sure that it does violate Free Movement, but since those proceedings for violations can take a few years, for now we’re stuck with it.

In 2025 the EU wants to introduce a similar system for the whole Union, but unified (so one representative for the whole EU). When that comes, the Austrian system will probably be disbanded, and since the EU is significant enough of a trading partner, the whole issue will probably be fixed. However, until then we're stuck with a law-enforced Amazon monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wow, that sucks…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

haha, in germany it often times is just cheaper to order elsewhere these days

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

an uncontacted tribe in the, you guessed it, Amazon jungle

Can you believe they're so powerful they have bought a jungle with uncontacted tribes in it?

(/s)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't figure out how they facilitate fraud and violate consumer laws, en mass, and nothing's been done about it... I mean, apart from the blatant capitalist oligarchies we live in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because we have a soft spot for monopsony for some reason. Probably because it's how you get the crazy ROI that gave us billionaires... Facebook, Google, Apple, Amazon - all of them were able to become the monsters that they are by controlling the link between buyers and sellers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I second the other commenter just stop using it. I haven't order anything from Amazon for the better half of a decade. There's no product worth buying that can't be found off Amazon.

You have no duty to reward poor practices with your business.