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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be fair, most of the cosmos in real life is literally empty. However, realism is overrated. The whole reason we play video games is because real life sucks.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I mean, some of us play sci-fi games because we want to experience the reality that's still out of reach to us.

Not Bethesda products, of course, but, you know. Games.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unless it's a driving game. Arcade-style racers just aren't fun. You barely have to use the brakes (if at all), and the AI cheats. I much rather play a racing sim.

Otherwise I agree.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I have a sim race setup in my living room and play ACC and compete in iracing events. That being said, you're not going to tell me Burnout Paradise isn't fun. It serves a purpose. I don't go into it looking for ACC level brake temperatures or tire wear, i go into it to drive 150mph around corners and smash into other cars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

arcade style racers just aren't fun

Sad trackmania noises

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, the only fun racer is Initial D.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh man I totally forgot about that game. Used to play it in the arcade using those mag stripe cards that would save your progress…good times

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And like of we were space faring, you think that shit wouldn't be capitalized on?? If there was a dollar to make on it someone would be there, and that alone opens so many possibilities for world building

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This borders upon one of my favorite topics actually - there ARE resources up there, which WOULD be valuable, but the cost of getting machinery and equipment up there is literally astronomical. Little known in public circles is the additional (and also enormous) cost of getting shit back down safely.

In order to be cost effective, the stuff we put into space would need to stay there. Asteroid mining is only better than break-even in terms of resources if it DOESN'T come back to earth! For instance, if we had an orbital (or lunar) habitat for refining and manufacturing, where an asteroid capture and retrieval vehicle can be built, fueled, and launched, and then return to, ONLY THEN would it bring back more useful minerals, chemical compounds, and other materials than it would take to launch...

... because the simple fact is that it takes a shit ton of energy to leave Earth's gravity well and destroys a lot of resources in terms of making (and surviving) that journey.

And then instead of building stuff on earth that consume an order of magnitude more than their construction in just transit, we can build it ALREADY UP THERE. That brings us to the last problem, though:

It's no use to any person except someone who is already up there, too.

I'm not even talking about money cost here. Money has no point here until there are humans who want things and need a means by which to measure those wants against the context of what productive capacity is available, represent the magnitude of their want, and represent the transfer of material goods to satisfy those wants. AKA respectively a store of value, unit of account, and medium exchange--the definition of currency.

Space will only be profitable in space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Space elevator dude, then your only cost is the energy to counteract gravity - which brings the second cooler idea I just had; Solar panel filled planets - cause what else would you do with all the raw material and surface area (thermal based or silicon, both could be easily setup with natural materials on an empty planet)

Edit cause I forgot to say we already have materials with the right tensile strength to theoretically hold a boulder in orbit, just not enough to get there. but we would in 300 years

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, a lot of people play video games to extend their hobbies.