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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The US is extremely unfriendly to legal immigration. You can be legally working in the states for a decade and yet not qualify for PR and have to leave. This is a major discouraging factor for skilled workers who don't want to deal with that kind of uncertainty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a girlfriend with a PhD working at a national lab, who also had a family with tens of millions of dollars (Euros, I guess actually). She was worried if she didn't get a job after her residency or whatever was done, she'd have to leave the country. If she doesn't feel secure I can only imagine for people without advanced education and wealth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah pretty much that. A lot of people think getting a job and work permit = immigration. It's not. I'm not uprooting my life to move to a country only to get kicked out 2 presidents later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet every single available h1-b visa available in the lottery is assigned. 80,000 skilled jobs, a huge number of which issue because of employer fraud (the absolute lie that no willing citizens are available).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between temporary workers and people who want to settle down with a family, though. H1B workers are by and large here for a short while only

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

H1-B visas are 3 years plus 3 year extension. In 6 years time, a person can go from a trained but entry level skilled position to a mid-level position or better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about career progression. It's about not being able to settle down in the states when your visa is finished. There's no automatic qualification for permanent residency just because you've spent 6 years there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re missing my point. It’s a job that’s off the market to qualified citizens for 3 to 6 years, on the basis of corporate fraud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well the initial article and discussion was about declining population due to it being difficult to migrate to the states and get residency. You may have a point about the job market, I'm not an expert on the American situation, it just wasn't what we were discussing to begin with.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the fuck are you talking about?

The US is one of the most friendly countries for legal immigration.

For fucks sakes not only is this person completely wrong, but almost 10 people upvoted this BS without asking for sources or checking online.

https://www.globalrcg.com/post/most-friendly-countries-for-immigrants

https://leverageedu.com/blog/immigration-friendly-countries/

https://www.greentreeimmigration.com/blog/top-immigration-countries-to-immigrate-in-2023/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Source: I'm an immigrant who spent a ton of time researching my options before moving. I'd like you to explain how I can move to the states and be assured a PR without resorting to a lottery draw.

I should point out all your links are from sites with a vested interest in getting people to pay for their services.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well over a million immigrants come to the US every year. If you're having problems, then chances are we don't want you here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Great, thanks for the illuminating answer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These sources are absolutely bullshit just so you know. One of them can't even get their countries straight. If I tried to move to the US (or anywhere else) with their suggestions I would just get denied entry at the airport.