this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2022
0 points (50.0% liked)
GenZedong
4298 readers
222 users here now
This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.
This community is for posts about Marxism and geopolitics (including shitposts to some extent). Serious posts can be posted here or in /c/GenZhou. Reactionary or ultra-leftist cringe posts belong in /c/shitreactionariessay or /c/shitultrassay respectively.
We have a Matrix homeserver and a Matrix space. See this thread for more information. If you believe the server may be down, check the status on status.elara.ws.
Rules:
- No bigotry, anti-communism, pro-imperialism or ultra-leftism (anti-AES)
- We support indigenous liberation as the primary contradiction in settler colonies like the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Israel
- If you post an archived link (excluding archive.org), include the URL of the original article as well
- Unless it's an obvious shitpost, include relevant sources
- For articles behind paywalls, try to include the text in the post
- Mark all posts containing NSFW images as NSFW (including things like Nazi imagery)
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I am absolutely fascinated with the cultural response to this show...I've never seen it but I'm tempted to watch it for curiosity's sake, though what I already know about it I don't like very much.
There seems to be a lot of casual misogyny in the show (Eleven, Max, and Joyce mostly existing to be shipped). A few years ago I watched a Pop Culture Detective YouTube video about the trope where a boy/man stalks a girl/woman he likes until she caves. Apparently that trope is in Stranger Things, with a black boy stalking a white girl. So there's a racist element to that, too.
Another thing I can't stand in media is when it's set in a certain era, yet doesn't seem to say anything about that era. Why is Stranger Things set in the 80s? As best as I can tell, it's because the directors are nostalgic for their childhoods. I feel like this show is also the prefect example of how nostalgia is often incidentally or explicitly a tool for fascism. Like, they have to put ~Cold War~ stuff in there and be relentlessly anti-communist. Why? Because the 80s were like that! And people are like "it's just accurate to the time!" Maybe so, but why choose to include this specifically? There are also people using this excuse to be rather homophobic, claiming that gay people didn't exist in the 80s, or weren't as common. AIDs pandemic aside, this also proves how nostalgia is a tool for fascism. The general public has very warped views of what certain time periods were like, and it's not totally due to ignorance on their part, it's because an agenda has been pushed, typically by the far right. Also apparently the two gay characters in the show (one canon and the other heavily implied) were treated like garbage in the most recent season. So there's that!
Eleven is the only character in the show who really interests me, since she seems cut from the same cloth as characters like Rei Ayanami, Anthy Himemiya, Crona Gorgon, etc. which I am an absolute sucker for (in case my pfp didn't make it obvious). But I genuinely cannot do high school romance (with one exception...Revolutionary Girl Utena my beloved...and that show is less about romance and more about cycles of abuse and how these fairy tale ideas of romance perpetuate them), especially when the narrative makes it seem like the be-all-end-all. Like, isn't Eleven a girl who escaped from a lab where she was being tortured and experimented on? I feel like with that premise there's so much to explore with this character and yet they shoved her into a relationship and made that her main deal, as best as I can tell. Like, when I was in high school I had a massive crush on one of my closest friends but now that I'm several years out of high school I can't believe that actually happened. It seems so, well, juvenile. Every few weeks I remember the whole ordeal and I'm like "was that real?" Lol.
Sorry for writing a novel...I guess I just needed a place to collect my thoughts about this show.
Well written, comrade. This deserves a Marx’s coat award.
Thank you, comrade!