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I’d shy away from “redneck” as an insult. It used to mean communists and now means working class rural people. It just divides us from our natural allies just because they live in a different type of area. Most of these fascist fucks are bougie mfers who live in the suburbs.
Agree, both hillbilly and redneck are derogatory terms for working class people.
Who are the Dixie-flying settler-born supposed to be the natural allies of, again? I won't deny that it's not all of them, but the few that aren't overtly like that are in a state of "show and prove" with me; otherwise, that's a real quick way for me to become a chalk outline 'cause I was too trusting.
I was born there; and lived experience is telling me you might be overestimating them a little.
Suburbs or rural? There’s definitely a lot of reactionary propaganda directed there, but there are also a lot of poor people who have given up on influencing politics because it’s presented as a binary between Dems and GOP and Democrats just look like condescending urbanites. Not being around anyone who isn’t like you doesn’t exactly combat xenophobia too. I’m not crazy to think that the vanguard is in the rural white workers or that Republican voters are the real working class, but their interests do align and they could be brought to our side with less condescension and more empathetic propaganda. Obviously, oppressed nations will probably be leading the revolution, but we shouldn’t shit on mislead rural white people any more than we dismiss any potential in democrat voting urbanites.
Rural. I mean, sticks as shit, the streetlights over the road ended fifty miles from where I was at, all cow country and farms getting paid to not sew shit other than wild grass. Biggest mistake my blood ever made was moving out there, and I had to live with the consequences of it; best choice I ever made was moving to a city above the Mason-Dixon. At least here, the racism isn't as blatant. Still coded; but not as blatant.
Ah. Yeah, it sucks in a lot of rural areas, but they also have potential. We shouldn’t idealize them as class conscious vanguard like Midwestern Marx does, but not should we use insults specifically targeting their low class position and totally denounce them.
While certainly not all southern people are bigoted rednecks, and bourgeois motherfuckers definitely live in the suburbs, and while it pisses me off that redneck is currently divorced from its original socialist meaning, I feel that many leftists are too easily willing to deny that many rednecks are just as bad if not worse than the stereotypes people say.
I think the framing is important, the OP was saying they hate "low IQ rednecks" as if the smart city crackers are better.
Like, hate 'em for the right reasons, not the same reasons the classist, ableist, ivory tower shitlibs do.
That's fair.
idk about "low IQ" as an insult. Whatever the stink that's been made about it, I think it's super rad that a statement like that can be made by somebody in a position like that. Marxism is definitely on the rise again!
Most of the chuds are petit-bourge. Any actual "working class" in the U$ is mostly colonized people, I think this is an uncharitable take on them.
The U$ won't have a revolution until the empire collapses, but this is still rad.
Fascists "hide their power level", Communists "disdain to conceal their views and aims".
you also cannot really prevent a day of the rope by being meek and modest and hiding away. they think Joe Biden is a communist ffs. whether that day comes is up to us actively preventing it or them not doing it.
Then we fight back.