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She’s an accomplished Black woman. That’s literally it.
Yeah. Right. Has nothing to do with her being some neoliberal cop who has a shit record from the left. It's because she's black. And a woman. Got it.
She has a great track record, both personally and professionally, if you had any interest in investigating it. Yes, even on cop stuff and leftist stuff — the details of which (including a lot of great social justice stuff, like trying to pass Federal laws against lynching and banning choke holds, racial profiling, and no-knock warrants) might surprise you.
But people like you have no interest investigating. Because why bother? She’s an accomplished Black woman. May as well just call her a neoliberal and a cop and be done with it.
She has a track record of imprisoning poor people for being poor. In California, no less, where it's basically impossible to not be poor.
This is a pretty typical wild mischaracterization of what actually happened — assuming you’re referring to her truancy programs. (Do you even know what you’re referring to, or are you simply repeating smears about Black women that you’ve heard?) As is usual for women, especially Black women, hyperbole and toxicity are the political norms. It is disappointing to see it, but unsurprising.
Having just looked up a bit of detail on the truancy law (and living outside the US, so I’m coming at this not having heard much of anything about it), that sounds horrific. The rationale Harris gave, that it was designed to connect parents to resources, doesn’t mesh with the fact that threatening people with jail time isn’t how you help them.
I also ran into the fact that she argued in favour of the death penalty. Again, not exactly something that’s going to make her appealing to anyone even remotely progressive.
Nice assumptions you felt the need to make about what I know or don't know. No need debating with boot licking assholes.
You’ve demonstrated knowledge of literally nothing during this conversation. I’m the only one that’s referenced actual policies here. All you’ve done is hurl insults at me and Black women politicians. It’s not a good look, but keep doing it, it’s really making my point for me.
I don't like her because of situations like her truancy laws. If you think she's not liked just because of her race and/or gender, then you'll never understand why people don't agree with her.
I think she gets special criticism because of her race and gender. The level of hyperbole and toxicity around her is unique, though politicians like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren experience similar extremely emotional reactions. White male politicians with controversial policies don't get called "neoliberal" or "cop" in the same way that Kamala does; certainly some her policies are not great, but she's not really worse than equivalent politicians, and in fact she is way way better than a whole bunch of them.
What do Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, and Kamala Harris have in common that seems to provoke such an extreme emotional negative reaction in their critics? Why is the reaction even worse towards Kamala?
Hmm.
I would posit those three agree with each other far more than they disagree with each other. It would be odd to find someone that objects philosophically to only one in that set. From where I sit they have a lot of similarities:
Definitely agreed with all of that! But there are a lot of white men with similar records who do not engender the kind of vituperative hate that these women do. And I don't think it's due to the similarity of their policy positions.
There are some democrats that are male progressives that have a law background that ran for president that are not hated by people? Who?
Obviously every politician gets hatred. But the kind and volume towards women (or Black, or gay) politicians is much higher than their white male counterparts.
For example, I definitely do not think that a thread like this would wind up with so much screeching about "cops" or "neoliberals" if it were about Al Gore. And probably would not have existed to begin with, because while he was, of course, radically progressive at the time (especially about climate change and technology) he was basically just a white progressive lawyer that ran for President.