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Is IVPN and Mullvad better than ProtonVPN ?
They allow for anonymous registration without an Email address. They just give you an Account ID. They also allow you to sign up via Tor. Mullvad even has an onion site.
Just chiming in, that the biggest selling point of Mullvad (and IVPN also, I think) is the possibility to pay with cash-by-mail or with crypto. Also, Proton has an onion site, too (at least I used it for ProtonMail, not sure if it's for Drive too).
Proton has an onion site for Proton Mail, (not sure if it's for Proton VPN as well) but it's a huge pain in the butt to sign up for an account. They often require email or sometimes SMS verification. Also, they redirect you back to the clear web page for the sign up process. It's less than ideal. I use Proton Mail and I pay for it, so I also get Proton VPN but it only use it for torrenting. For all other things I use IVPN and I'm pretty happy with them. Customer support is great btw.
With the verification thing on Proton, there is a button which allows you to bypass it.
Edit: at least there was when I created mine
If there's verification that you can just bypass by clicking a button it's not a very effective method of verification xD
I agree. I was also confused back then. Because of this, I tried creating an account yesterday and found out, that verification is in fact needed. But I simply used one of the disposable email services and it was done. No need for a phone number.
Sometimes, when signing up over Tor, they don't allow email verification and require a phone number.
Wow, that's really shitty. Maybe tutanota over Tor?
That works. If you are unlucky and get a bad Tor exit node that has often been reported for abuse, your account might get suspended for 48 hours, but after that it's fine.
I personally feel like Mullvad provides a better, faster and cheaper service than Proton. However, Proton has other very interesting products such as ProtonMail, ProtonPass and Drive. I'm interested in all that, so I ended up moving to Proton.
I don't have a single bad thing to say about Mullvad, excellent service and pricing policy.