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By a 6-3 majority, Supreme Court strikes down Biden's student loan debt relief plan
(www.supremecourt.gov)
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
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But they won't force the fkers that took out PPP loan out on all of the younger people stuck with student loan and further cause inflation to get worse.. I am honestly at the point where I think all of the younger generations need to band together, stop paying taxes and tell the government to just fk off already, they are not a legitimate government institute since they don't represent the will of the people and that we should establish a new government to replace it (using constitution and laws from saner country.)
We legitimately have tried to change this country through Bernie Sanders and instead only for DNC to say, "Lol fk all of you, Hillary Clinton!" in such a non-democratic notation and then they basically hand over the election to Trump and consequentially the 3 Supreme Court Positions to basically permanently screw us over. Even if we voted to get all of the Democrat's majority chairs in congress, they did nothing with it.
I'm tired of all of the double standards, some of my friends have been killed by this institute, because they went homeless, didn't get the medical coverage and all that during covid. To everyone telling people to go and vote, sure, but as long as the current political system is in place, America's only destiny is to further radicalize to the extremist right and democrat party is helping them do it. American government is NOT legitimate and it's not a democracy.
/rant
Bernie or busters are what got us into this situation in the first place, get the fuck off of your high horse and vote.
It's hard to predict if Bernie would have beaten Trump. The GOP likely has a binder full of opposition research ready to go if Bernie had become nominee, with enough "scandals" and "socialist scare quotes" to mobilize their base even more. Meanwhile, Sanders didn't even get more votes in the primary.
And yes, Trump winning in 2016 was a huge blow, with a lot of momentum from things like the Comey investigation and a more divided left base than on the right.
But it's not fair to say that we should turn our back on politics, as this is exactly what causes the "will of the people" to not be heard. If young people want to be heard, they should vote in the same numbers as the older generations, and think strategically about which choices bring the highest benefit in the real world. Voting for someone who represents your ideals with no chance of winning is worse than voting for someone who only partially represents them but has an actual chance of winning. At least until first past the post is eliminated.
With who though? They won't eliminate the first pass the post, good luck ever fixing that one, why remove the thing that got you in office?
You're high if you don't think Bernie would have gotten more votes from across the aisle than Biden. That's just an insane argument. The fact that the DNC and Dems in general had issues with Bernie would have brought voters over. We saw when Bernie went on Fox and got a fantastic response that he was more able to cross that gap than some corporate Dem. I'd say voting for Biden in fear, or any same-ol' candidate just perpetuates the bullshit of the past 5 decades.
The best form of protest a young person can do is leaving America. No need to lie flat when you speak English and have an American passport. Hell, depending on the country you could probably even get away with not paying your student loans (and that living situation gives you a lot of leverage if you wanted to renegotiate your loan)
Why make a new government when it will inevitably end up as an oppressive regime, just like every other nation and government. (don't @ me, even NZ, Denmark and other "perfect" countries are still oppressive) Why not go all anarchist? It's worked for a time Ukraine and Spain and I believe it could work here.
You think the world would be better if there was no government than if there was one like in Denmark or New Zealand? Are you serious?
Yeah, he’s seriously 15 years old mentally. Sounds like libertarian garbled nonsense.
We all benefit from altruism. Because of one thing, technology. Let’s talk medical care for one, I have access to better healthcare than any medieval king had, actually I would say any human being has had on this earth since before 1980? 1985? Hell I don’t even know when.
Why is that? Because of medical advancements caused by scientific collaboration, which can be guided by public funding and public interests. How do you have these breakthroughs? You educate the populace and direct attention to scientific accomplishments.
Fuck anarchy, we are social species. Social democracy is the shit!
I am pretty new to politics and I align more with social democracy, but I've always being curious about anarcho communism and it isn't about losing scientific advancements or everyone for themselves. I think an anarchist would argue that these things are possible and in fact encouraged, but that they should be handled directly by the community, cutting out the middle man of the government.
Whether this could work or not is another dilemma, and one I cannot answer.
For some kind of anarchist, socialist utopia to even remotely work you need consensus and social cohesion. A desire to get along and work for the betterment of others.
To propose something like that, at this point in time for America... while it would be nice in theory, if you removed government what do you think would happen?
...also, Denmark is oppressive? lol
How's anarchy supposed to work? Both Ukraine and Spain have functioning "oppressive" governments now. I always figured that it'd end up with whoever has the most guns ending up doing whatever they want.
The reason that those two countries are now under "authoritarian" rule is the fact that the anarchist communities that were functioning were shutdown by neighboring states. It would take a truly global revolution for anarchism to work. However, I could see that happening in my lifetime due to the state of the planet. Once there's nothing left for us to extract and nothing left to fight over nations will have very little power.