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Elon Musk has until the end of Wednesday to respond to demands from Brussels to remove graphic images and disinformation linked to the violence in Israel from his social network X — or face the full force of Europe's new social media rules.

Thierry Breton, the European Union commissioner who oversees the bloc's Digital Services Act (DSA) rules, wrote to the owner of X, formerly Twitter, to warn Musk of his obligations under the bloc's content rules.

If Musk fails to comply, the EU's rules state X could face fines of up to 6 percent of its revenue for potential wrongdoing. Under the regulations, social media companies are obliged to remove all forms of hate speech, incitement to violence and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Since Hamas launched its violent attacks on Israel on October 7, X has been flooded with images, videos and hashtags depicting — in graphic detail — how hundreds of Israelis have been murdered or kidnapped. Under X's own policies, such material should also be removed immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Getting rid of misinformation is great.

Getting rid of accurately reported, gruesome images because of a government mandate flies in the face of the core principles of free speech. And it would cause real damage to the world.

Remember that it was only when the world actually saw images of the Nazi concentration camps that the world actually believed it. They'd heard about it for years, but it was largely ignored.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Getting rid of misinformation is great.

That is the goal. The OP article and especially the headline here is misleading.

This is what is in the original letter regarding violent images: „repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games“.

The issue is not violent images per se. The issue is misinformation through violent images that are unrelated to the current events.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I respect that but the images presented to the public were selected to denounce and illustrate horrendous acts commited.

Here, I'd risk there is a very high risk/probability whatever may be leaked/posted is for pure shock value, with no intention to inform or contextualize.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Intent doesn't matter. People should be allowed to document and post crimes committed against humanity

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The pictures are old and don't relate to what's happening currently.

Also, what do you think the differences between pre-meditated murder and manslaughter are? Intent absolutely matters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Intent does matter. It is so inportant it is even relevant in courts of law.

You want the images of the barbarism raging in Israel as we speak to be known to the world and that is a good thing. People need to see the acts being commited there.

Yet twitter is not, in any way, the platform for it, as those same images are very easily twisted out of context and thrown out in a fashion that will only serve to further entrench extreme positions and used for sheer shock value.

These are human lives being laid to waste, not a social media circus for browny points.

[–] Cethin 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure, but I believe this is only for social media sites. You can still document it, but social media isn't the place. I assume you'd be able to link to that, but not to the images directly, but I'm just guessing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I see denouncing and illustrating terrorist attacks as a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, which requires an unbiase position, supplying all possible information.

Nowadays, and even more when considering twitter, that is hardly the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pictures are old and unrelated to what's happening currently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which makes it even worse, I'd risk? If the said pictures are unrelated, why are those being pushed forward? Are we voluntarily trying to dumb ourselves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I should have replied to the person you responded to, you are clearly on the same page I am.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're speaking against the propaganda fueled groupthink, that's a bannable offense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You should read before you post.