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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you think you build a good, safe and dedicated bicycle infrastructure in a city which has not been designed for it?

The Netherlands did it. Just change construction requirements/guidelines, zoning, etc, get some biking activists, and wait 50 years. All of these problems have already been solved.

And to answer your specific question, I think they normally close off roads to regular cars but let delivery vehicles go through. In the short amount of time the vehicle is there, people just bike/walk around it. And they also make smaller delivery vehicles, including branded cargo bikes for when the situation fits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and wait 50 years

Because we all know cities are usually able to plan things 50 years in advance...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No. Because infrastructure needs to be replaced every so often and after 50 years you’ll have gone through most of it. 50 years ago is around when the Netherlands switched from building car infrastructure to also building bike infrastructure.